I know how to specify the start of a handbell LV (let vibrate) and its end with a damp and get that to happen in playback. I also see the correct symbols in the score. However, that doesn’t encompass the variations of how LV should appear to the performers.
An LV passage followed by a rest needs the damp symbol (which is what I can do now).
An LV passage followed by notes needs “R” to indicate the following notes are to be Rung according to their individual note values.
An LV passage followed by another LV passage means the bells in the first LV are to be damped and those in the second LV are to be allowed to vibrate. There is no damp symbol.
An LV passage followed by a stopped sound technique means the bells in the LV are to be damped at the time of the stopped sound. There is no damp symbol.
How do I do this in Dorico? Do I create different popovers for each? Do I do something in the Engrave mode (which I’ve barely looked at)?
I think these variations are probably best done using lines with different start and end caps. But lines do not affect playback, so your playback instructions would have to be hidden
Janus, you answered my question in creating the working LV through popovers to playback techniques to expression maps. That’s basically working. The question is how to get it to show up in all its variations in the printed score.
That is a whole new topic - how to edit lines.
(I get the impression you are trying to sprint. I would caution you to learn to walk first. All these things are possible, but I urge you to play with imperfection whilst you learn Dorico)
Handbell notation doesn’t use a line to connect the let vibrate to the damp. There is the “LV” where it starts and either the damp symbol or the “R”, or nothing when another LV starts. My question is more about what to do with the damp symbol that sometimes need to be a damp symbol, sometimes an “R”, and sometimes nothing to display in the printed score.
If the issue is that the “R” playing technique is not stopping the LV, I would probably suggest making the “R” playing technique trigger the same “Damp” playback technique that the damp playing technique triggers.
You can have multiple playing techniques that all trigger the same playback technique underneath.
And you can of course use the “popover text” field in the Playing Technique to determine what you want to type in the popover to to add it to the score:
Clearly few of us, if any, have experience of, or understand the specifics of your handbell notation. So when you throw these questions at us all we can do is give our best guess. I don’t think anyone here knows the precise answers to your questions.
Every time someone makes a suggestion you reply with an objection.
I think it is incumbent on you to experiment with the various methods that people here have suggested and see what works.
And I have been trying every suggestion. Some work. Some I can’t get to work.
I am very aware that you don’t know handbell notation. I make those “objections” because I know they don’t fit in handbell notation. I’m very aware that handbell notation is a different beast. Many concepts are the same but need to be portrayed differently because of the different nature of handbell music.
As in this topic. You talked about how to edit lines. That is appropriate for piano. It isn’t for handbells. So I “objected” as you call it – I would say rather it is a case that I recognized my initial explanation was not complete and I added more information to guide the discussion back to what will work for handbell notation.
I will be looking into the suggestion of using the “R” as a playing technique, an alternate way to indicate a damp.
