I have a score that has a single player with pages of rest before they come in. I’m trying to figure out how to not show that lines for that player until he comes in. Otherwise the score is excessively long showing unecessary rest bars. I figured out how to do this once but can’t seem to do it now.
Eric, in Layout Options select that player’s layout, and specify whether Multi-rests should be shown (or not). Is this what you are after?
If you have more than one flow in your project, you could also use the “Tacet” functionality.
Which topic is that under in Layout Options?
I would start looking at “Players”
Multi-bar rests are on by default for part layouts. In case this is off, you can switch it on in Layout Options > Players > Bar Rest and Multi-bar Rests.
If you’re saying that the rest period is so long that even the multi-bar rests take up more than a whole page, you might have to edit a separate copy of the part to hide rehearsal marks and other things.
Mark,
I’ve attached a file where I previously accomplished what I need to do. However, I cannot remember how I did it. I want to do this to another similare file. Can you look at it and see if you can tell how to do it?
Thanks
Angels from the Realms of Glory - Part 2 SATB score condensed.dorico (1.1 MB)
That project contains one flow that starts with bar number 45. Bars 1–44 are simply omitted. To do that you simply add a bar number change at the beginning.
If you do have a part with lots of empty bars, let us know.
The tenor/bass does not start until bar 65. Originally, there bars 45 thru 64 just showed empty bars with whole rests. Somehow I was able to get the program to not show the empty tenor/bass parts until bar 65. I was also able to get soprano/alto empty bars to not show from 69 to 82. Unfortunately I cannot remember how I did that. the missing bars 1-44 are by design because part one of this piece has that music in it.
Eric,
You have 2 active Layouts for your project and you might wonder, where the third (Tennor/Bass) is:
Go to Setup Mode and connect the Tenor/Bass staves to the Tennor/Bass Layout:
Now to your initial question, if you open the Layout Options for your Full Score Layout:
Under Vertical Spacing you will find the options you are looking for. It is the place where you can control the automatic visibility of empty staves. Change Staff visibility “Hide empty staves:” from “All Systems” to “Never” and your layout will look like this:
Btw., this is the layout for the male voices:
Another thing: If I make your voices visible, it looks very inconsistent.
How did you input your music, have you imported it or did you type it in?
It looks, as if you have tried manually condensing the 4 voices.
I manually inputted four voices. However that is very difficult for the pianist to play all 4 voices when practicing parts. I copied the Alto onto the soprano line and the bass onto the baritone line to condense into a normal piano score.
Eric, I know you are probably only just starting to use Dorico.
There are ways you can do this much nicer, quicker and more efficiently in Dorico.
- If you have written your for voices into four staves, you can select the complete Alto stave, copy it, then go to the beginning of your first bar in the Soprano staff, double click, then: Paste Special->Into Downstem Voice 1.
You will instantly have a staff with both voices, beautifully laid out with independent voices. - there is another way in Dorico, using the automatic condensing feature. Basically you just tick “Condensed” in the Menu and Dorico will do an automatic condensed Layout. I would not recommend using this feature as a starter with Dorico, because there are a couple if things to consider beforehand.
One can, of course, arrange one’s parts as one wishes, but it is somewhat unusual to hand (for example) a Tenor section a part solely for tenor without any other parts or even cues. Normally a chorus would expect a piano/vocal score to let them practice their parts if the wish and to fit their part in with other singers at rehearsal.
Vocalists are not quite like instrumentalists and are ordinarily treated as such; but as I said, one can do as one wishes.
Thanks for your feedback. If you look at the file I uploaded, I think you will see what I’m trying to do .
Yes Eric, I had a look and noticed that you have about 5 or 6 different voice colours - just in the Soprano/Alto Staff. This shows you are making a big effort and probably use a lot of time for something that Dorico can master quite effortless.
Eric,
I took the freedom to inspect your file again.
I have never seen so many voices in a project!
In Dorico you use Shift-V to create a new voice.
Next time you want to input music into another voice, you don’t need to create a third voice (by using Shift-V again). You can toggle between the voice input by just pressing the letter V (for voices), that is without the Shift.
This is, how I would condense two parts into one manually:
My aim is to put Soprano and Alto into the upper system of the Choir (reduction). Here you can see the voice colours of Soprano and Alto:
I select the Soprano and copy/paste it to the upper Choir system:
I select the Alto System, copy it and
Paste Special into Downstem-Voice 1. You will find this in the right click menu:
This will be the result:
I switch to the Choir Layout, voices still visible. There are only two voices involved, the upstem- and the downstem voice:
Without voice colours the result is like this:
Here is the Dorico file, chopped and edited:
Angels from the Realms of Glory - Part 2 SATB score condensed - chopped and edited.dorico (1.0 MB)
Impressive.
Jesper
After some experimentation with your suggestions, I can see the way to do the choir consolidation much more easily. Thanks for your help!