Hiding Rests!

[ehler]

I understand the idea that rests have to account for, but unless there’s a way to tweak my voicing to still get the things I want to otherwise behave as a downstem voice, the attached looks pretty clunky for a drumset voice

(not a percussionist, and I tweaked the hi-hat and snare voice setting)

[dspreadbury]

You can take those down-stem kick drum notes and do Edit > Percussion > Change Voice > Extra Down-stem Voice, and that should hopefully take care of it.

[lucas_r_r]

@Bastis

@matanr

I am having trouble with doing this on the rests in the upper voice in the beginning and end of this figure, for drum set in V1.2:

Hey matanr! I found a way to hide unwanted rests in percussion staves, assuming this screenshot is what you’re trying to achieve.

The trick is to make a 4:2 tuplet (if you have 4th notes selected) with a whole note in it, then you can hide the whole note and the 4 that appears. You can mute the whole note if you don’t want to mess up playback.

This worked for me!
Thanks!

[Maarten_Kruijswijk]

@matanr

I am having trouble with doing this on the rests in the upper voice in the beginning and end of this figure, for drum set in V1.2:

I would make this a single voice drumpart. This is also tipical linear drumming so single voice is much more clear IMO. Then you have to make a new slash voice yourself by adding an intrument on the b line an give this instrument a slash notehead. That is how I would solve this problem. See attachment for the result.

Greetings,
Maarten

[pianoleo]

Maarten, you’re responding to a post from over a year ago. I think we can probably assume that Matan’s solved his problem, by now…

[Maarten_Kruijswijk]

@ehler

I understand the idea that rests have to account for, but unless there’s a way to tweak my voicing to still get the things I want to otherwise behave as a downstem voice, the attached looks pretty clunky for a drumset voice

(not a percussionist, and I tweaked the hi-hat and snare voice setting)

As a drummer I have to say that this is very dificult to read while it is a very simple groove. In this case I would say: or you make an voice for the bassdrum, hihat feet and one for the hands, or you make a single voice part. I realize that you can say; I just want Dorico be possible to make the part I want. But please have mercy with the drummer who has to play it.

Greetings,
Maarten

[ehler]

@mrtn16

@ehler

I understand the idea that rests have to account for, but unless there’s a way to tweak my voicing to still get the things I want to otherwise behave as a downstem voice, the attached looks pretty clunky for a drumset voice

(not a percussionist, and I tweaked the hi-hat and snare voice setting)

As a drummer I have to say that this is very dificult to read while it is a very simple groove. In this case I would say: or you make an voice for the bassdrum, hihat feet and one for the hands, or you make a single voice part. I realize that you can say; I just want Dorico be possible to make the part I want. But please have mercy with the drummer who has to play it.

Thank you! In your feedback I am struggling to understand just a bit, are you saying the best option would be to:

1. Switch hihat foot to downstem voice and that’s all (except perhaps clearing rests)
2. Make everything (which in this case would just be adding bass drum) a single upstem voice

Thanks.

[Maarten_Kruijswijk]

Yes I think the best solution is “1. Switch hihat foot to downstem voice and that’s all (except perhaps clearing rests)” You can also go to Notation options (CTRL SHIFT N), percussion and chose single voice. Is also very clear reading, I.m.o. and more easy to write because you don’t have unwanted rests.
Greetings, Maarten

[sohncompositions]

Hey Daniel, is there a possibility of getting this feature available on a future version? I’m struggling to get my drum parts down the way I want it in the musical I’m writing.

[pianoleo]

Dorico 4 does a much better job of at least allowing percussion rests to be hidden (e.g. by using Edit > Remove rests.)

What specific problems are you finding?

(And in this case, probably best to start a new thread, because much of the stuff in this thread is too far out of date to be of help.)

[sohncompositions]

Actually, I just explored Dorico 4 after posting that question and was able to get a trial version and delete those percussion rests. That was the biggest problem. I’m still running into problems with creating cue markings from a multi-percussion line such as a drumset to be shown up as a cue. But not an immediate problem that I can’t work around.

[DanielMuzMurray]

Does this

Drumset notation: best practices

Cue into a pitched stave first, then Alt+click the cue into the Percussion stave. You can then delete the original cue. That solves the vast majority of the problems you’ve listed, Craig. [image]

or this

Drum cues

You can cue unpitched instruments to pitched instruments - e.g. show a hi-hat cue on a flute staff. If you’re not seeing a cue, it might be that you’re in the full score – by default, cues aren’t shown in scores but are shown in parts. Once input, you can change the vertical position of unpitched cues. To show them inside the staff, deactivate the Rhythmic cue property and change their Unpitched note position.

help?

[Lillie_Harris]

Are you trying to add a cue where the source instrument is an entire percussion kit? I think you can only cue individual instruments from kits, you can’t cue the whole kit in one cue – but I’m not sure whether that’s clearly outlined in the manual if so, I’ve made a note to review this.

[sohncompositions]

Hey Lillie, yes, it would be nice to cue the whole drum kit from a pitched or unpitched staff line. Especially for other percussionists, that would be nice.