Hiding staff lines, but keeping notes

I can’t get it to work. If you can find a way to modify the .pkg, it would work but I can’t find a way to do that

Hiding staff lines is also needed for creating a part that has just the time & key signature, barlines and chord symbols (big chord symbols between the barlines).
@dspreadbury is this being considered for a future release?

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Certainly we would like to have a way to produce these kinds of chord charts more easily, but ideally I think we would create a dedicated feature for it.

Well, I am writing a piece for a singer and handclaps are necessary. It would be nice if the handclaps were just there without a staff line. The hand claps are on beats 2 and 4!. The percussion staff just adds a bit of unnecessary space and ink.

Could you perhaps use a rhythmic cue? Write the hand claps on their own staff, cue that into your voice part, don’t include the hand clap instrument in your layout.

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There are lots of ways to go about doing this. Can you post a pic of what you want? You could do it in another voice with a new notehead set …

… or remove the rests and flip the stems:

It’s really dependent on what the end result is you are trying to achieve.

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That is the most marvelously dumb sample melody I think I’ve ever seen. :laughing:

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LOL, I aim to please :joy:

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How about just writing clap on 2 and 4 as staff-attached text (or perhaps a playing technique)? Surely that will be plenty clear to a singer.

Your aim is true, @FredGUnn.

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Note the hand claps on 2nd half of the measure in 6/8. The top staff is optional violin. At this point Soprano and alto are singing in thirds…Also note the hand clap line is invisible.

This could easily be achieved using cues, as @Janus suggested. You could:

  1. create a player (say, a single-line percussion) that contains only the hand claps (Edit > Remove Rests if you don’t want to see them) EDIT: changing the notepads to Xs, as per @Janus’s example below, looks clearer.
  2. name the player Clap
  3. create a new layout that does not include the clap part
  4. insert cues from the clap part to your vocal staves

Full score:

Score Layout without Clap player shown:

There are many ways to do this…

(this uses a rhythmic cue)

Or you could just say that as a text direction!

@dspreadbury Has this been added to Dorico 5? I can’t find any documentation on it.

Unfortunately not.
Many of us are waiting for a « 0-line staff » to be implemented in Dorico so that we can deal with the input of certain contemporary spellings.

However, I saw a thread about this, and it seems that one of the members has set up a library to fill the gap. I haven’t tried it.

FredGunn library

Hi, could somebody explain this behavior in Dorico 6.1?
I’m creating worksheets for students and want to hide the staff while keeping only the notes (see GIF).

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When I increase the staff line thickness, it behaves as expected. But when I decrease it, the staff lines stop getting thinner and instead the barlines disappear. Why does this happen?

This can be useful in some situations, but I don’t understand what the Barline Thickness setting in Engrave Mode is for then (see screenshot).

Do you mean like this?

I’m not sure what is the best value to use, but I took a power of 2.

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Thank you, it worked. No idea why 1/2048, but it worked. However, my question remains unanswered. While experimenting, I entered -10 and pressed Enter, and instead of the staff lines disappearing, the barlines disappeared. Is this a bug or intended behavior?
I also wonder why there has been no consideration so far to add a simple function to hide staff lines, hide barlines (without reformatting note positions) hide clefs, etc… This functionality is essential when creating worksheets.

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I think there have been cases before where Dorico did ‘odd things’ when specified values were not within the “logical limits” of a function. This may be noted now and fixed in a future version.

I know nothing about worksheet design, but if this hasn’t been “FR” before, perhaps you can create an “FR” post so developers can log it and add it to the “wish list”.