How do I put a staccato on the 2nd of 2 held notes?

As in this example:
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The reason I’d like to do this is to indicate that the player should release the held note at precisely the downbeat of (in this example) the 3rd beat.

Please kindly let me know -

  • D.D.

I don’t think you can. I’d go Shift-X on this one.

That explains it :slight_smile:…Am I the only one who learned that ending a held note by tieing it to an eighth note with a staccato on it (in order to show the precise moment to cut the note off) is not an uncommon notational technique? And if this is typically something done, shouldn’t this also be more easily doable in Dorico?

  • D.D.

Well, I don’t recall ever seeing it. But that doesn’t mean anything!

Engraving options>Articulations>Ties
(this is a global option however)

That’s the answer - much thanks! Somehow I hadn’t fully “discovered” Engraving Options in general, and now it’s blowing my mind with the no. of options :slight_smile:

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Now can anyone explain why a half note tied to an eighth note, with the staccato now appearing successfully ON the 8th note, is played back by Note Performer as if the whole thing is a single, staccato 8th note?

Note Performer is still under beta (with Dorico). It would be best to contact support directly at Note Performer’s website so it can be looked at.

Internally in Dorico, the note is a single musical unit (five 8ths long), so all NP can “see” is probably just a single note with a dot on it. Since this is a fundamental feature of Dorico, and unlikely to change, NP probably has to come up with the solution here :slight_smile:

BTW, I tried this in F* and S* as well, and it doesn’t seem like NP is trying very hard to interpret articulations on the ending note of a tie chain… (?)

For changing things on an individual per note basis, once you create the articulation, there’s an articulations panel on the bottom right (may have to scroll to see it) with an option for whether the articulation should be placed at the first or last note in the tie chain.

@Steinberg staff: please expand this with additional options (eg articulation on specific notes within a tie chain, if it wouldn’t break the entire concept of ties altogether). Things like this and this are pretty common notations in string/wind/brass music and should not be as difficult to notate in Dorico as they currently are.


Nope, you want to use separate slured notes. Tie indicates one solid musical event that cannot be notated with a single rhythmic value.

A slur would indicate a separate attack of the same note, i.e. louré on a string instrument or tonguing the note separately on a wind instrument. Accents or tenuto marks in the middle of a tied note indicate re-articulation without retaking the note, i.e. diaphragmatic accents on a wind instrument, or an accent created entirely with bow speed & pressure on a string instrument (without lifting the bow).

Obviously it’s possible to create accents in the middle of sustained notes via the playing techniques editor, but they don’t follow the articulation positioning rules & therefore always necessitate some extra work >.>

Thank you naomi, perfectly put into words!
Subtle and different articulation changes on string and wind instruments can not be put into strict categories.
Music does not follow technical terms - so we should not try to submit music to technical categories.

Yes, thank you Naomi! I miss this accentuation in the middle of tie note.