Dear experts,
I would like to notate bar 41 as written here:
After some fuzzing around I got this:
Etüde Nr. 7 - Ausschnitt.dorico (1,5 MB)
First I focused on the figure on 3 of bar 41.
As you can see I’m still quite far away from the given notation and something is wrong with the direction of stems. I would appreciate any help.
In Write note, if you right click on the beam, does Stem > Force centered stem do the trick for you? In the properties panel, you can then set the Beam direction to down.
To be honest, I don’t know where the eighth rests from the image come from and if their placement is intentional (i.e., why is it missing on beat 2? Why are there none in bar 43?)
You would need to create the rests in a new voice. Force their duration, set the rest position to 0 and remove unnecessary rests in that voice that appear.
Thanks to all of you! I managed to achieve this result by writing the custom centered beams into a new voice, then manually laying the noteheads over each other and, also manually, adapting the beams’ direction. I’m not sure if this was the most practical way to to it.
Etüde Nr. 7 - Ausschnitt 2.dorico (1,5 MB)
I’m afraid there is no explanation to those missing rests other than someone having forgotten to write them.
Given the beamed notation, those rests are all redundant. But without the beams it still makes perfect musical sense…
Sometimes we should ignore the decisions of previous engravers.
Agreed, and yet in this instance there’s something more musically evocative about the original (assuming correction for consistency in showing rests). It seems to suggest visually a kind of musical “spring-boarding” from the low notes that the separated up/down-stem version misses.
OK - in which case the rests are redundant! (cf bar 43)
Some bars later there is this:
How do I notate this kind of trills?
Etüde Nr. 7 - Ausschnitt 3.dorico (1,4 MB)
Select the note, shift O, tr enter. Then if the line does not appear, select the trill, check out its properties and make sure Has a line is enabled and checked (or modify the Engraving options about trills so that they display a line)
Thanks Marc, the trill “tr” was no problem. I want to notate the figures directly before that, last bar on 1 and 2. Should have explained that more exactly.
They are just multi-note tremolos.
Aha, thanks Janus. But how do I get to this exact appearance, keeping the eigth beam plus the two tremolo beams inside?
In this case, Editions Eschig. Their publications of the guitar music of Villa-Lobos is lovely in some place, and a train wreck in others. I wouldn’t use them as a template is all I’m saying…
I cannot really disagree with your opinion the Eschig editions. But I don’t know any better ones.
This example completes the confusion (we are here in a 4/4 bar)
I can see no reason to “replicate” published versions of any score. They made engraving decisions for a myriad reasons that make no sense today.
(but I’m a minority voice)
I do this just for learning, working on the piece in my personal way and develop a better understanding. And of course to get better with Dorico.
No harm in that! I was just pointing out that the Eschig engraving practices can lead you down some strange alleyways.
