Windows 11
Cubase Pro 14.0.10
Dorico Pro 5.1.81.2225
How do I activate the note articulations in Dorico that were attached to MIDI notes in Cubase, so that they trigger the Cubase expression map assigned to my Dorico endpoint?
Steinberg support chat says the MIDI note articulations are exported from Cubase with the Export → Dorico Project feature, but I can’t figure out how to turn them on in Dorico.
Hi ! I admit I haven’t tried it. But it would make sense that if you have expression maps that work in Cubase and others that work in Dorico, the Cubase export into Dorico should make them work… Do you have a little file (not the whole thing) that you could share with us so that we can test it out?
Sure! Here’s a folder with the following elements:
Dorico Export from Cubase.zip (697.2 KB)
I’ve opened your file and applied a noteperformer playback template. Apart from the trills (the 1/2 and W markings appear as text instead of trill property), everything plays as expected. No reason it would not work with other vstis, provided they have correct expression maps…
Isn’t there a way to define correctly those trills in Cubase with properties ? I actually would have liked the source file (cubase one), since I’m less fluent with it and would probably have learned something there 
Of course, Cubase file attached.
00 Strings Default Expression Map.cpr (1.1 MB)
Thanks for looking at the Dorico project, but I think we might be using the term “articulation” differently. I’m referring to a MIDI note attribute “articulation” assigned in the Cubase Key Editor Info Line which calls the articulation directly from the expression map. Cubase support confirmed that this MIDI attribute is exported along with all the other data in a Dorico project created by Cubase, but they didn’t tell me how to find and/or connect it to the expression map in Dorico.
I don’t expect that there would be any need for 3rd party plugins to make the connection between the embedded “articulation” assigned to each MIDI note and the corresponding articulation in the Cubase expression map. I would think that Dorico has the ability to make this connection natively.
Unfortunately, at this point, Cubase’s and Dorico’s XPMaps don’t share much beyond the basic concepts… Dorico can import CuMaps, but need a ton of tweaking.
The Dorico export from Cubase exports everything you see in the Score Editor, but nothing related to the assignment of VSTs or the expression maps.
Toggling the info line articulation attribute will in fact change the articulation in the score, and that itself will export.
If you want to trigger something specific in a custom expression map, then you’ll have to edit the expression map in Dorico manually.
Thanks @StefanFuhrmann for clarifying. Am I correct in understanding that the following circled MIDI note attribute data from Cubase:
is NOT included anywhere in the Dorico export?
That depends entirely on the Expression Maps assigned and how that attribute is defined in the Articulations section.
If a given articulation is represented as a symbol, then it will also show up in the score, and export to Dorico as that specified articulation or playing technique. In Dorico, you will have to create or use an expression map that then works with the given playing techniques and articulations. The Cubase Expression Map will not come along in the export.
In this specific example, you have TremSulPont defined as a text attribute, and that currently doesn’t convert to anything semantically meaningful, beyond triggering a specified output as defined in the expression map, but only in Cubase. Other examples from your file will work on export though, like the staccato or marcato markings.
Furthermore, the sul pont in bar 8 will actually play back in Dorico, though not caused by the note attribute, but by the playing technique which you have added separately.
In short, if you see it in the score, and the Dorico expression map can deal with it, it will play back.
@StefanFuhrmann thank you so much for your replies, they’ve helped me to understand how articulations are translated between Cubase and Dorico.
So, in order to get “TremSulPont” to correctly export from Cubase to Dorico, I need to figure out how to get Cubase to show tremolo marks on the note stem, and “sul pont.” above the staff in the Score Editor, while simultaneously triggering my tremolo sul pont sample in my expression map. Back to the lab, wish me luck!
Just ran across this older post. Did you, in fact have any luck achieving your goal?
Cheers!
Haven’t achieved articulation consistency between Cubase and Dorico yet, but I’m more hopeful now that Cubase 15 has upgraded expression maps. I haven’t upgraded yet to try out the new features, so I can’t say what’s possible with the new version.
If anyone has upgraded to Cubase 15 and has achieved consistency in articulation expressions between it and Dorico, please elaborate!
