How to add a keyswitch (change patch in Kontakt) when changing a part

VST Live
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I am struggling with a simple problem: I use spitfire appasionata strings and want to switch form legato to sustain with a key switch but mapped to a part change (I am not using tracks for this, just live playing in a band)

example part 1: sustain (chords playing), part 2 legato (solo part), part 3 spiccato. I change parts with a foot pedal…

I use parts because I have other keyboards playing different patches as well… this shouldn’t be a problem I thought…

this is so simple in gig performer, but I would love to do this also in vst live because for all the other programming vst live is much faster.

Carl

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AFAIK that’s not yet possible. But it’s definitely an interesting idea. I assume you’re using a Global Layer for Kontakt/Spitfire Strings? I’ll relay that to the defs. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Try this:-
Have a shared layer of Kontakt in each of your parts.
In Kontact change your Group Start option from “start on key” to “start on controller” and use a quick control in VSTL to send the correct message

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@CliveJ, did you tried and it works?
Nice idea, but there are too much groups to change.
I also tried with KSP in Kontakt and loaded preset - transform CC to notes. One single time I had it worked, but all other tries without a result, strange :frowning:

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You can send any controller when a layer gets activated like so:

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I could never get Kontakt to reliably load a simple 2 sound split - ditched it.

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Yes, I’m using a global layer with all my non-Steinberg vst’s like Pianoteq and spitfire samples…

I have found a workaround with bomes midi translators, which translates cc to notes. I use a empty layer with a cc set to specific number and output port to bomes virtual midi, then translates this back to a virtual port linked to my sampler midi port.

A lot of work for a simple task…

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We’re at it … :blush:

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But the Kontakt library needs note to switch articulations, not CC. With CC Map we can transform one CC to another, right? Not to the note.

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We’re at it, @ArthurNeeman :slightly_smiling_face:

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Check out Layer Sends (Layer/Layer Options/Sends). You can send anything at Layer activation (Part selection). That should solve your problem (and some), let us know if it does.

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Super !!!

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This is a live changer, super easy to implement patch changes in samples Kontakt or Halion!

Thank You!

kind regards

Carl

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Thank you for implementing this feature, though I can’t save the settings. When I reload my file, the settings were missing…

Carl

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Unfortunately you are corrct. We are terribly sorry but forgot to save/load those messages. Will be available from the next version on.

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Does this apply at Song change? For example can i send a Midi Note to a Layer at Song/Part selection?

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When a Song becomes activated, it activates its first Part, which activates its Layers, so yes, that should work.

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Cool, because I needed one Note for a Layer because my In Ear Monitoring Transmitter saves energy, when there is silence for a certain time and I have a Global Layer running with an arpaggiator who triggers a sound frequently.

BTW there once was a thread, where someone wanted to hear the Beat, before the Song starts. With this setup you can achive this very easily :blush::+1: