How to avoid overlapping text on the music in Dorico SE 5?

I’m using Dorico SE 5. I added some text under the music, and it looked okay for a while, but after a while I noticed that Dorico is no longer making space for the text. I’m not sure if it’s a bug or if I accidentally hit a key that caused it. Does anyone know how to fix it?

The text was added with shift+x and then f to flip it to the bottom. There are several text areas stacked on each other there.

Here’s a screenshot:

(I blurred the text because it’s notes from a copyrighted book.)

This is difficult to check/investigate from a picture of course. Can you share a Dorico file that shows this behaviour? (you can substitute the text with a dummy text if you like).

Anyway adding a lot of text can lead the frame to be overfilled. In such cases you can make more space for the added text with a frame break* positioned strategically.

[*Edit: sorry I see now that this is not doable in Dorico SE…I am searching other ways…]
Edit 2: it is possible to achieve System and Frame breaks from the menu Edit

You can try (in Dorico SE) to reduce the Fixed number of systems per frame (in menu LibraryLayout options/Staves and systems/Casting off, and also activate Scale number of systems by frame height (less systems in frame=more place for the lot of text):

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If you post the file someone will doubtless help you.

It is not a bug.

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Thanks, I already had 4 bars per system, but I just turned on the other two checkboxes and limited it to 4 systems per frame, and that fixed it. It’s a bit more spread out now, but I don’t need to print it, so it’s fine. It’s just some music theory exercises.

Hi @guitarj , glad it helped. If you need often this kind of (a little more advanced) adjustments, you can consider Upgrading to Dorico Elements, where you have some [other] Engraving Options like System and Frame Breaks [EDIT: System and Frame breaks are available in SE under Edit Menu] that make such editing very easy and fast (and without the “too much spread-out systems” for this specific scenario).

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The feature I really need is the ability to edit guitar chord diagrams, but it looks like that feature isn’t available until you get the full version, which is way out of my budget (almost USD $600). At the moment, I can’t really justify spending money on a limited version that still doesn’t have one of the main features I need.

I’m hoping there will someday be a more affordable way to access the full version, like a $10/month or $100/year subscription or something like that. If Steinberg did that, they would be making $600 every 6 years from me instead of $0.

Sorry, a little out of this thread topic, but… : I suggest you to activate the marketing emails in your Steinberg account, so you will be notified if there are some special discount in the future. Steinberg doesn’t use (fortunately) a subscription method of payment (only for the iPad there is one, due to Apple App Store system, but also for iPad you can buy a lifetime unlock, for example). There are also Educational discounts and competitive Crossgrade discounts, in case one has a licence of Finale or Sibelius or Capella.

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Thanks, I’ve been subscribed to marketing emails for two years but haven’t seen any discounts. I’d pay $180, but I don’t have any other similar products, and I’m not a student at a university.

@guitarj I’ll suggest a good strategy for you, if I may…

  1. Save up for the Dorico Elements version “$10/month”.
  2. You may buy it when there is a special offer. It is well affordable, you have a lot of extended Dorico features.
  3. At a later time you can upgrade from there to the full version - also when there is a special offer.

2a) In the time between those two purchases get the fully working Dorico Pro version as trial (it runs for 60 days) - and already get acquainted with its wide palette of features.

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Thanks for the suggestions.

I already used up the Dorico 5 trial. Elements doesn’t have features I need that would justify spending $80-100. I’m not doing anything fancy and am not a professional musician. I don’t need to save up for that kind of expense, but I can’t budget $580 for notation software. I haven’t seen any special offers in the past two years that are in my price range. $180 is at the high end of my range, but I don’t qualify.

I will get by with SE and maybe some other free software for generating custom chord diagrams. I’m just explaining why paying for Elements isn’t compelling and Pro is inaccessible for a user like me. I’m sure the Pro version is worth the price though. It is impressive, well thought-out software.

System breaks and frame breaks are possible in Dorico SE. They’re on the Edit menu in Write mode.

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Oh, indeed! Sorry for my false information (I correct my post). I am so used to see the icons on the Panel that I missed that one! Thank you @Lillie_Harris !

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If the version comparison table for the different Doricos doesn’t include the specific option/action you’re interested in, you can also check the manual (although as there’s always a chance of markup errors, manuals shouldn’t be treated as a final authority on feature-sets!)

Eg find the page for inserting frame breaks in the Pro manual, then (using our helpful new system’s version toggle in the top left) switch to SE.

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