How to delete bars without changing key signature

Dorico
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Greetings:

Please allow me to give some context first.

I tried to copy paste between files that have multiple keys. With nothing selected (transpose the whole score), I opened the transpose dialogue. The minor second was available only until I clicked the option of transpose key signatures. Then the only thing I could do is to delete all other measures, only to leave one key signature. When selecting the bars, I click the first bar of selection, then shift click the last bar of selection. It won’t work if there is a tie in the end. I had to delete the tie, then I could select the bars I wanted to delete. But after I deleted those bars, I found out the key signature for the remaining measures has been altered. Am I not doing it correctly?

Thanks a lot for your help

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Hi, if you use the System Bar for your selection, everything will be copied, including your key signatures.

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Dorico can transpose anything a minor second, but if one includes key signatures, Dorico may refuse to transpose a key signature into a key that would require double flats or double sharps in the key signature itself.

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Thanks. That solves the problem.

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Thanks. That probably involves keys like E sharp vs F. In that case, just settle on the one that doesn’t have double sharps or flats, other than leaving people stranded. E sharp and F or F flat and E are the same thing. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Just tried it. This way of selection is easier. But the issue of the altered key signature still remains after deletion.

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I don’t exactly understand; if you transpose, the signatures will also (have to) transpose.
Btw, C Major / A Minor will also have to have a dedicated key signature to be able to transpose. Make sure they are included, when you make your selections.

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Well, technically, you don’t have to transpose the key signature. That’s why there’s an option for it in the Transpose… feature. And if you use shift-i, tX where X is the interval, the key signatures are not changed either. It is still a transposition :person_shrugging:
Ok, I was off-topic here, not having read the whole thread… When dealing with some transposition of a piece that has multiple key signatures, it is quite often necessary to perform the task in different steps, using the system track (those grey rectangles above the systems when you press alt-t), so that you use possible intervals. You don’t transpose a minor 2nd to go from E flat to E, it’s an augmented unison up, for instance…

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