How to enter these tuplets correct?

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Hi forum,

I’m not very experienced with the tuplet input.

I want to enter to dotted quarter notes (see screenshot) in a (septublet?). The notes, the pause and the septublet looks exactly like I want to. However, I cannot delete the tuplet in the next bar, only both at the same time.

I entered it like this:

shift-i, press ; and enter 7/6 (and input the notes after that).

If I enter 7/3 I cannot make it look like on the screenshot.

If anyone knows how to do this, any advice is very welcome :folded_hands:

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You appear to have have entered a 7:6q tuplet.

This is 7 quarters in the space of 6 quarters. Since there is insufficient room for this to fit in the 6/8 bar, Dorico has split it across the barline.

What do you really want to achieve?

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Following on @Janus’s observation: If what you want is the first measure – 7 eighth notes in the space of 6 – then you either need to enter 7:6e in the popover or make sure that the eighth note duration is selected in the panel and then just enter 7:6. The point is that you need to tell Dorico that your base unit for the tuplet is the eighth note.

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Hi @Janus and @asherber thanks a million! :folded_hands:
I’m beginning to understand the logic behind it.

So in a 4/4 bar I would input 7/4q and set the grid resolution to quarters which will allow me to input 7 notes.

In a 2/2 bar I would input 7/2h and set the grid resolution to halfs which will allow me to input 7 notes.

Off course it’s more complicated than that, but this is a good starting point.

Grateful for your help.

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Only if you wanted 7 half notes in the bar (which would be unusual)! If you wanted 7 quarters, you would still enter 7:4q (a 2/2 bar contains 4 quarters).

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I think you’re slightly mixing up three things.

  1. The grid resolution (lower left corner) affects how the caret moves when using the arrow keys. It has nothing to do with note entry.
  2. The rhythmic durations in the left panel indicate what kind of note you’re entering.
  3. Tuplets in Dorico are defined as x of something in the space of y of that same thing. So 7:4q is 7 quarters in the space of 4 of them, which would let you input 7 quarter notes in a 4/4 bar; 7:2h lets you input 7 half notes in the space of 2 of them, or 7 half notes in a 2/2 bar. Both of these have nothing to do with the rhythmic grid resolution. And in fact, once you’ve started a 7:4q tuplet, for example, you don’t even need to enter quarter notes – you could enter three half notes and a quarter note, which add up to the same duration as 7 quarter notes. The tuplet duration just indicates what the proportion and base unit are (and what number will appear over/under the tuplet).
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