If you set the alpha channel to 0, you can see the notes if they are selected. A will select everything, or do a marquee selection for a section and you will see the notes.
… you will also see your hidden objects once you print them or save them as pdf - if you forget to choose “colour” in the print dialogue…
In other words: if you choose “mono” all your hidden objects will be visible in the printout.
That is not very obvious, so one should check the file - for example before sending it out to a customer…
You will see the hidden objects if they are selected - but there is nothing to indicate which objects are actually hidden. So this technique is only useful if you more or less know where the hidden objects are situated in your score. There is no way to search / filter for hidden objects.
This is one of the rare areas where I respectfully disagree with the Dorico design philosophy of only implementing actions that perform semantically meaningful musical events. Allowing selective display/hide of any object (with an appropriate signpost) is a feature that has been discussed and requested many times on this forum. . . . .
Thank you!! I knew it’s there!
In Write mode, setting opacity to zero for a rest does hide the rest, but not any augmentation dot that may be with it.
I hope the Hidden propriety will be fully implemented in Write mode. Having blank spaces, instead of visible notes, is an idiomatic part of my writing (and is of use for any type of contemporary proportional notation).
Paolo
Paolo, unless you’re on a percussion stave you can hide rests anyway…
Pianoleo, are you referring to the Edit > Remove Rests command?
Paolo
Yes. It works on primary rests as long as you explicitly enter the rests with Force Duration, and then use Edit > Remove Rests.
Well, I think it can do what I want. And – much better! – do it in batch, instead than for a single rest!
Paolo
Just playing devils advocate, the only good reason to hide things would seem to be to work round another limitation in the software.
If the purpose of the score is for computer playback, the computer doesn’t care whether things are hidden or not. You can create an extra staff for an instrument if you can’t see what you are doing with everything on one staff.
And if the purpose is for human playback, the humans can’t see the hidden objects anyway!
In any case, displaying things in a “100% transparent colour” isn’t really “hiding” them - it’s just a side effect of the general color and transparency setting option. For things that really are optional to show in the score (like rests with multiple voices on a staff) there is a proper “hide” option already.
While what you say is true, I was thinking more to the use for proportional notation, à-la-Takemitsu. Something like this (to be done with Remove Rests, note head zero transparency, and hidden stems):
Paolo
Just a note to remember that this issue still exists in v3.0.10. While I understand there is a mass removal procedure, I want to report this particular behavior.
Paolo
I tried changing the color of the rest to white, but it remains a small part of the rest in black.
Also, I did not find @pianoleo 's suggestion of Edit → Remove Rests.
How can I hide that rest?
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What you are seeing is part of the ledger line which the rest sits on. If you use Rest pos. (in Properties > Notes and Rests) to raise it so that it it hangs from the bottom staff line, the ledger line will disappear as it will not be needed anymore. You will also need to use Custom Scale (in Properties > Common) to reduce the size of the rest (I found that 50% was sufficient) so that it does not obscure part of the staff line. All this is in addition to what you have already done, ie changed its colour to white.
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The menu command Edit > Remove Rests is available when the you are in Write mode and you have selected the rest(s) which you want to remove.
Thanks. For future Dorico updates, it would be great if this could be simpler, like pressing “h” and that’s it.
Edit > Remove Rests is where it’s always been. When you said you “did not find” my suggestion, what exactly do you mean?
I think I wasn’t on Write Mode. But probably it was there and I didn’t see it even though it was not available on Engrave Mode. It would be great to develop mouse clicking in Dorico, having more options when you double click something.
Even in Engrave mode, the function exists on the Edit menu.
Granted, it only works in Write mode.
You can certainly assign a key command for it if you wish, though H is by default assigned to toggling between the hand tool (for dragging the page) and the marquee tool (for dragging a box to select items on the page).
My point is, double clicking makes the software more intuitive. If the user has to assign the commands, that’s no longer intuitive. Not only that, but many other features in Dorico could be accessed by double mouse clicking. Just a suggestion for future improvements.
Sorry, when I said double mouse clicking, I actually meant right click.