How to make all project info appear on title page

In the project info box I add various pieces of information that never actually show up on the title page. I’ve read several posts that refer to the page templates, but I don’t see any place where I can simply ask Dorico to show (preferably by default) all of the info in the project information page. Also, “arranger” should be in the project info options. I would guess that at least 90% of the time people add information to the project info page because they want it to appear on the score. Why isn’t this the default? As a 30+ year Finale user, I find nothing intuitive about this software.

Dorico chose to include a few of them in the default templates, but it would have been impossible to include all of them, given that there are 15 fields in Project Info, plus 15 for each flow (i.e. at least 30 for a project), plus dozens of other tokens (Layout Name, page number, flow page number, player names…). And every user or publisher will want different placements for the tokens they choose, I believe. That’s why customizing page templates is necessary if the defaults don’t suit your needs.

Once you’re done, you can save your project as a template, or save your page template set. So, unless you change your mind, you just have to do it once.

If you need help to customize your page templates, please feel free to ask here!

Because everyone has a different requirement. It is simple to set up your own page templates to reflect your own personal needs (which you can reuse as needed).

The best way is to add a page template or edit one that is there already (in Engrave Mode). I personally prefer to add a new one. To add the fields from the Project Info, you will create text frames and add the tokens for those fields (e.g. {@projectArranger@} ). There are videos on making templates, using tokens, etc., as well as thorough documentation in the manual and a “reference card” (pdf) for tokens. You will just have to make sure you allow enough space in the frame for the amount of text (in the Project Info) to which the token points.

If you need more help or get stuck, come on back! We’ll get you there!

—Jim

Thank you both for the responses. I am frustrated with elements of Dorico that were so much faster on Finale, but I do appreciate you taking the time to guide me through this. So I want to add the subtitle and other information to a score I have already started. In Engrave mode Page Templates, I select first page and choose the edit icon and I see the picture below. I still have no idea from here how to access the subtitle and tanscriber info I put into the page info.

Please see this

You change the size/position of the green text frames (or add new ones where you need them to appear) and then add the tokens for subtitle/arranger etc.

(If you need a left hand page to look different from a right hand page, treat each half of the page template a s separate pages, otherwise just change one side and use the L->R button to copy your changes to the other side.)

There are numerous tutorial videos available about how to set up basic page templates.

Here is a quick demo, where I use the existing frames (you can also create new ones, as mentioned above).

I also quickly show how to create and apply a Paragraph Style (for the Subtitle in my example).

It’s not strange that you work the fastest when doing things the way you’ve done them for over 30 years, but I’d recommend that you take a step back and learn Dorico from scratch rather than approaching the program wanting to do the things you’ve done in Finale and then get frustrated. Try to think about the end result you want rather than the process to get there in Finale, if you get what I mean.

I’m not saying that Dorico is perfect (we all probably have different views of what the perfect music notation program would be), but you will be happier if you learn to “think in Dorico”. Like when you’re learning a new language. If I were to think in Swedish and then translate each sentence to English before typing, that would be terribly inefficient. Much better to think in English when I type on the Internet. Or how the best music theory teacher I’ve had advised to start from scratch when learning to read c-clefs rather than thinking “the alto clef is like a g-clef but one step removed”.

(I left Finale when we got the end-of-life notice, but it didn’t take me long to wish that I’d switched much sooner.)