Hi, folks!
Is there a way to access signposts that are stacked upon each other in a way that they have left the top of the page?
There are 4 signposts I can reach, but as you can tell by the lines to their left, there are 7 more that I want to edit.
Any idea on how to get to them or make them visible? Zooming out does not do the trick, they stay hidden.
Thanks, everybody!
If you create a new condensing change in the same spot, it will copy over the settings from the old one, so you can ‘access’ it that way. But there’s no general solution.
This would probably get very fiddly if there are many signposts all quite close together, but maybe you could select the last one in your example and (temporarily) move it to the right using alt/opt+right arrow. Once it is no longer underneath the preceding signpost, the signposts to the left should all drop down.
Have you tried doing a drag select?
Unless the signposts are in the very first system, you might be able to view and select them in Fill View.
If you have condensing changes every bar, then there’s likely a problem with your condensing options!
Not true, and also not the point at all.
As a feature request: perhaps (in good time) Dorico could change the “tucking index” so higher signposts could move down under a subsequent signpost once space was available so signposts alternated between higher and lower positions.
Just a thought.
Agreed, but be assured that’s not the case here.
Since there are practically no rests in this piece, the whole thing is more-or-less a single 40-bar-long phrase in every stave to Dorico. I have to step in here to get decent condensing 
You could temporarily lock the frame, then make the top page margin huge?
Try Fill View or changing to View > Pages > Spreads Vertically.
Uh, “Spreads Vertically” is a really nice idea! 
“Fill View” does not do the trick, since the problem is still there for the very first stave. Using “Spreads Vertically” however, since I already have 2 pages before the first page with music content, I can indeed reach all of them in this view.
Nice, thanks!
(I’m gonna mark this as the solution - but really hope the team will come up with something usable in the future. I’m quite baffled that this has not come up more often in the past.)
Considering that it looked like you were in Engrave mode, changing the view wasn’t something I thought to suggest. (Well, I thought about it but figured you needed to be in that mode for something!) It might be a nice feature to see stacked signposts in whatever mode or view one was using.
Yeah, same here. I didn’t think of that either because of working in Engrave Mode at the time
Here is an extreme example of signposts stacked on top of one another:
The first flow has an initial tempo of q=64 and a rallentando in the second measure with the default final tempo % of 75. This flow is exported as a MIDI file and then that file is imported into a second flow. The rallentando is replaced with hidden absolute tempo changes occurring every sixteenth note.
Hi @Estigy, beside the useful suggestion by @StevenJones01 and others, if for some reason you need/prefer to be in Galley view while editing your signposts, you can
activate provisionally the timecode staff in layout options.
set the minimum distance Timecode staff to staff to an appropriately hight value (this will be affecting also the Galley view), so that enough space for the signposts is created.
Of course when you return to Page view is better to deactivate the Timecode staff!:
That’s a very neat workaround
