I have a choral project with several flows. The flows use different full score layouts (some of them with all staves shown, some of them with empty staves hidden). In Write or Engrave Mode I want to see all used flows in a row (to scroll through horizontally) instead of only those that belong to the active layout (chosen at the top of the Dorico window). In other words: Is there a way to choose multiple layouts as active? Or can I see all flows in a row just in Print mode (scrolling vertically)?
@Lyhrus
make an additional āFull Scoreā Layout your āMaster Scoreā, meaning that you include all flows and all players into it.
Thanks, @k_b ! So there is a way to get a hierarchy of layouts?
I wouldnāt call it a hierarchy, you are free to select or deselect the flows and the players in each Score Layout absolutely to your wishes.
And for each Layout you can absolutely have individual Layout settings/options.
Not sure if weāre talking about the same: I already have several layouts and flows assigned to those different layouts. But as far as I know, in Write / Engrave mode you only can show one layout (the active one) in time. So scrolling through the flows, only the flows assigned to the active layout are shown. To see the others you need to choose another layout as active.
But I want so see all the flows in a row regardless of the different layouts they are assigned to.
Youāre asking to show Flows that arenāt in the current Layout, in the current Layout.
The only way to do this is to have a separate window that shows a Layout containing all the Flows; and then have your main window showing the other Layout.
Can I ask more about the workflow? Perhaps thereās another method of achieving what youāre ultimately trying to do.
Thank you @benwiggy.
Letās simplify it: there is a Work/project containing two choral pieces (A + B), each one in its own flow. The first one (A) has four choral voices that sing almost all the time, there just a few rests. So I donāt need to hide empty staves. Piece/flow A gets a layout A which shows all staves.
In the second piece B, the soprano and the alto only start to sing in bar 46, which is say on page 4. So for this flow I use another layout B with the layout option āHide empty stavesā for not having empty staves over the first four pages. ā ā
As a summary: in this project we have two layouts A and B. But in Write/Engrave mode with Layout A chosen as active we only see piece/flow A as this is assigned to layout A.
To see the second piece/flow B, I need to set layout B as active.
So in the end (in Write/Engrave mode) I never can scroll trough the whole work/project showing both pieces A and B. This is only possible in Print mode.
Following your suggestion it would work having a separate window showing the Print mode. But I would to get this in Write / Engrave Mode as well ā¦
Create a Layout C that contains all staves of both flows.
(I do this often and call it āWorking Score.ā I never bother to format it, since I never print it, but it makes working --and playback-- easy to manage.)
If you are just using two separate Layouts so that you can using hiding in the second piece ā use Manual Staff Visibility in the first piece to āforceā showing all the staves. (Or vice versa, just use Manual Staff Visibility to Hide the staves here.)
I presume at some point, you want to print both pieces together? In that case, just make one layout, as you need it.
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Thanks @Derrek ā¦ hm, in my case it is about printing. It is not so much about working and playback anymore.
However, probably this is the answer as I wanted to see formatting concerns within the working space (write/engrave) though they belong to the print mode.
But as long you use a separate layout for each flow, you never will see the whole work (with say 20 flows) as a whole (in Write/Engrave mode). This is what I dislike ā¦ Understand?
In my case my work contains about 30 flows (not just two A and B), some of them with hidden staves, some of them not. As this is a Layout Option you need to choose whether the one or the other. We cannot have one overall layout or a Master layout as far as I know.
But my problem is not the layout itself. It is that in Work/Engrave mode we only can see one layout at a time. So again, if we need to have different layouts for different flows, we never can see all flows at a time in Write/Engrave mode.
Is this true or do you know a way to show all flows nevertheless (apart from Print mode)?
As said, you donāt have to use the Layout Option for Hiding Staves, you can use Manual Staff Visibility.
(In the old days, we would just add a Text object containing a space, to make a Staff āNot emptyā, and therefore show.)
Print mode wonāt show you anything differently from Page View in Write mode or Engrave mode. It will only show you the Layouts that you have created.
This could be the answer ā¦ but as there are other layout options (not only the hidden staves) I would like to use it would be not so comfortable to work with manual forcing all the timeā¦
I really do urge you to explore manual staff visibility. I think it provides all the flexibility you need to keep all your flows in a single layout.