I thought it was free!

[BrunoDSL]

@RBIngraham

I think some folks probably wouldn’t really mind that as they only every use Kontakt as a player device. But NI has always made you buy the full version of Kontakt if you want to play samples that are not part of the official NI catalog (sold for Kontakt Player). Where as at least Steinberg lets you play any sample patches in whatever version of Halion you have a license for. Granted if NI did that they would make it just as confusing as Steinberg has more than likely. Point is, there are good and bad points and while confusing, I think Steinberg is more fair with their licensing that NI is. And most importantly, when you do buy the full Halion, they don’t make some sample packs inferior and not show up in the search tools in the same manner, as NI does, just because they didn’t get a mark up by selling the sample pack in their store.

You’re right. Let me rephrase that:

Imagine Native Instruments making something like Kontakt Collection, which is the 55GB library from the full version of Kontakt but with Kontakt Player instead.

[RBIngraham]

I understand what you’re saying. I just doubt I’m the only one out there that has the Komplete Collectors Edition but I only every use Kontakt as a player and occasionally Battery. I install all the other instruments, but I honestly doubt I could name the others, except that you just mentioned Reaktor. I’m not even sure why I bother to install the effects to be honest. So, realistically, if what you suggested was a real product, I would probably but it, except that I need the full Kontakt in order to play 3rd party libraries. I keep trying to migrate away from NI and Kontakt but there is just to many libraries I would miss and new and interesting things keep coming out in Kontakt only unfortunately. I can’t remember the last time I opened Kontakt to actually use it as a sampler or synth to make a unique sound. For that I typically use Falcon or Halion. Or for simple stuff, just the sampler track.

[raino]

@RBIngraham

I need the full Kontakt in order to play 3rd party libraries. I keep trying to migrate away from NI and Kontakt but there is just to many libraries I would miss and new and interesting things keep coming out in Kontakt only unfortunately.

That’s the crux of the whole issue.

[alexis]

@noise

I’ve found with clients that message simplicity and clarity can make them quite nervous. They feel more “protected” with lots of vague and often useless verbiage between them and their clients. Perhaps it makes them feel that their offering is worth less than if there are just one or two clear sentences?

I don’t have music clients, but communicating complex and unfamiliar scenarios is a big part of my job … and I find the best communication and client satisfaction takes place using the exact opposite paradigm than you describe.

The more simple and clear I can be, and the better I can translate complex scenarios into simple concepts, the more satisfied my clientele is.

Funny how different things can be!

[Teo]

I thought life was free!

[A.D.STUDIO]

No issue here. Steinberg said free update to Halion 7.5 from 7. I opened the download manager, there it was. Updated fine.

[andy1324]

see there you go, nothing confusing about it,