I'm finally a "new" lanes convert (Except...)

Cubase
#47

Keep in mind I’m using 6.0.2 until the metronome bug is repaired, so please let me know if any of this has been fixed in 6.0.3 (the change log doesn’t mention anything).

I think at the Cubase page top you’ll find Helge Vogy’s announcement about C6.0.4. Revision nect week and official release soon. This makes mention of a metronome fix.

#48

Hi,
Thanks for your posts A.j and asessing the current situation.
I have already reported this thread to the respective departments.
To make the gifs I am using “LICEcap”. :slight_smile:

Thanks to all of you,
Gr,
JHP

#49

Wanted to add an idea I posted in the Nuendo forum for a “Move Comp To New Track” function:

I’m often double, even quadruple tracking things like BV tracks. Currently, I have to drag the different bits of audio I choose from the lanes for my (First) perfect take, and drag them up to a new track. But I think the following feature would be great:

  1. Go through all your sliced up lanes until you have your “perfect take.”
  2. Instead of Advanced/Delete Overlaps, select a new function called “Move Comp To New Track”
  3. All the bits of audio that made up your perfect take are MOVED to a new track above the selected track and is named “Comp Vocals 1” for example.
  4. Now, because all of these bits of audio have been MOVED to a new track, they are no longer available in the track you were editing lanes in. This avoids you accidentally choosing the same bit of audio when selecting bits for a new double tracked vocal comp.
  5. Now you can run “Move Comp To New Track” again and make a third track if you’d like.

Sorry if this isn’t clear. This would be more of a musical application rather than post, but . . . I still think it would be a time save for me.

#50

great :slight_smile:

Just to let you know, everyone I’ve talked to who is either using cubase or nuendo in professional settings are really upset about the new lanes and prefer the old version
Me and most of them are still using cubase 5.5 or nuendo 5.1 for most of our work… For us, the new lanes really mess things up


And btw… group edit isn’t really new… I’ve been doing that for ages, just group the events on the different drum tracks together using ctrl+g… Edit them ilke one
After a take, press ctrl+g and do a new take. repeat. Easy

#51

That’s awesome! Thx!

#52

Those gifs are great. One gif says more than a thousand words! :sunglasses:
Create a locked topic with all of them, one in each post and a short description plus maybe a link to the original topic? :bulb:

#53

Thanks.
Over time I will add some Cubase 6 advice thereads which are all linked to each other and form a ring:
It starts with this one:
http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=9515

I will make a short comp protection thread to add the gifs there and link it to the ring.

Gr,
JHP

#54

I don’t want to learn a new workflow to protect my work from broken functionality…

#55

If you’re not always learning something new with Cubase… :unamused: maybe you know it all. :mrgreen:
Like me.

#56

It’ll make a nice gif-t for someone…

I’ll get my coat :stuck_out_tongue:

#57

What, you’re always learning something new… :laughing:

#58

What, you’re always learning something new…

Yep. But it pushes the old stuff out. :laughing: Then I have to learn the old stuff again.

#59

Recursive learning :laughing:

#60

Well… the old way was fine. quick and easy. The new way fucks this up and to be able to work kind of like i did before I now have to incorporate a slow and messy workaround into my workflow.

Seriously, if you don’t understand the problem, then you can’t have done a lot of advanced editing in cubase

Fuck change, I want tools that work the way I want them to

#61

I do a lot of editing. I don’t know what “advanced” means as I generally plan well ahead so I don’t have to complicate things that I may forget to edit.
For a couple of decades now, even on hardware keyboards, mixers, etc new versions always have changed features. Everything is always changing and on the move, some good, some bad. Usually it’s down to what features are NOT a selling point at present so it’s simplified and the devs look at it to see if any improvements can be made. You may find that it’s improved in some future update or they may even take it back to what it was. As the thread illustrates, it is a big deal for some so they may well rethink.

But I still know it all. :mrgreen:

#62

It has been briefly mentioned in the thread, but what I believe to be the simplest “workaround” for the issue when recording new parts appears to have been largely overlooked. Simply muting the newly recorded or pasted elements restores the previously comped sequence. Cubase seems to retain some sort of memory for the order that a part was selected in for any given period of time in the audio sequence, and muting any given active element of a comped sequence makes Cubase activate the most recently selected non-muted part. This is an incredibly easy way to record more parts for sections you have already comped without losing all your hard work.
Unmuting the part does not reactivate it in the sequence.
I should note that this is using 6.0.3

#63

I just read your post akfunk, will have to try that out, thanks.


FWIW, I just spent some time color coding the “selected” bits that go into a comp before recording a new take. It looks like it might work ok here, at least based on the 1st few first look-see trial runs. No need to “protect” the comp as far as I can tell - even when the new take “rewrites” over the original comp, the original choices are easily identified by their different color, and the original comp can be relatively painlessly restored by clicking on those blue meanies.

The new take in its new lane shows up uncut, and when you do cut it, the cuts are extended up into all the previous takes on their lanes.I found that the cutting of the new take is not trivial - it’s pretty easy to have a veritable plethora of extraneous cuts on the original lanes, which just seems like an accident waiting to happen, at least on my computer.

It’s not so bad if the new take cut is far away from the original cuts made when working on the first comp. It was easy enough to just use the glue tool to delete the new cuts that had appeared on the “old” comp segments, and that was fine.

But, if I try to cut the new take in the same place/at the same point in time that the old ones were cut … I found it almost impossible to overlay the cuts precisely, and thus I wound up with multiple very narrow/short “slivers” in my old takes. [Edit: SNAP to events - no problems now :smiley: ]

I’m hoping these will go away with x-fading, but I haven’t gotten that far yet.

Hope this helps someone down the line, and also if anyone has any suggestions re: this process, am I overlooking something important …? Also, especially for lining the cuts in the new take up at the exact same point in the track that the original cuts were made, I’d appreciate it! [Edit: SNAP to events - no problems now :smiley: ]

Thanks -

#64

Great idea! Very useful when you need to extract more than one comp from the same recording (eg double tracked vocals)

#65

How are you guys doing this in the new system?

  1. Multiple lanes from cycle recording of an audio piece.
  2. Comp.
  3. Decide that you want to replace a piece of audio from one spot in the timeline with one from another. For example, the vocalist said the word “dig” in the first chorus instead of “dog” … he said it correctly in the 2nd chorus, and you want to cut and paste it over to the first chorus.

When I try it my comp goes crazy.

Thanks for any suggestions -

#66

Yes, it’s another lanes-related disastrous oversight on part of the designers.
It makes it impossible to re-arrange your audio without losing the comp. Even moving vertically on the same track will lose the comp.

See here -> http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=16157