Import audio files

Hi,

I would also appreciate it if we could import audio. When I teach at the university, I sometimes show my students a transcription I’ve done to illustrate a point. With Finale, I could open the transcription and play it, as well as the original recording. I could select specific bars and say, ‘Listen to what John Coltrane is doing here.’ The students could follow the musical notation while hearing the corresponding audio in the solo. This is very useful for me.

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@maxine.z,
I’ve just came to ACE Studio. Pretty amazing software. Congratulations! :slight_smile:
Would be nice if you collaborate with Steinberg in order to make both Dorico and ACE Studio work properly together.
Would be really nice if the music and the lyrics written in Dorico, could be transferred to ACE Studio without any additional workarounds.
I would make additional requests if it’s possible:

  1. Would be nice if we could use ACE Studio in Offline mode. We cannot relate always on internet, and there are many people that keep their production workstations offline.
  • Would be great if we could purchase the software and just the voices we would like to have. The same way as Synthesizer V offers.
  1. I would suggest more real voices, per genre to be recorded, in order to have real timbral differentiation.

  2. Would be awesome if we are having more traditional voices like Bulgarian traditional female and male choirs, Persian, Arabic, Greek, Central Asian.

  • Personally I like to incorporate Bulgarian, Persian and Arabic voices in the music I am playing and composing.
  • Currently there is no any AI Vocal generator that offers those vocals on the market.

Greet job! Keep working!

Best regards,
Thurisaz

I import audio into Dorico a lot, because I do some transcribing/arranging and like to play the audio back in sync with the measures in Dorico.

It’s entirely possible to have audio line up with the bars/measures in Dorico.

Takes a few steps:
1.- put audio file in Cubase; analyze Tempo; figure out the times signature(s), etc.

  • create a MIDI track in cubase; have a note match the length of audio file
  • export these tracks as a MIDI file
    • place audio file in a Video editor (iMovies, Filmora)
  • create a video with black background (or whatever) to match length of audio
  • export as an .mp4 file
    • in Dorico, Open the MIDI file you’ve created
  • create score with extra instruments, etc.
  • you can hide all the tempo track changes. Hide the other Tempo markings as well.
  • attach the Video you’ve created to the Flow
  • mess around with ‘Video Preferences’ in the Flow tab where you attached the Video. Lineup the music with the score barlines. Might take a little fidgeting around.

But…this works and is bulletproof everytime I do it. Makes for a quick workflow for arranging/transcribing and playback of the audio with score.

Hi Thurisaz,

Thank you so much for your kind words and detailed feedback! We’re thrilled to hear that you’re enjoying ACE Studio and appreciate your thoughtful suggestions.:smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Regarding your points:

  1. Offline Mode
    Unfortunately, ACE Studio is unlikely to provide an offline mode in the future. Our technology heavily relies on an online infrastructure, and there are fundamental differences between our current online-based approach and an offline mode, making such a transition quite challenging.

  2. Purchasing Specific Voices
    Your suggestion to allow users to purchase specific voices is quite interesting. However, compared to our current model, where all voices are accessible through a subscription, this would represent a significant shift in our business strategy. We will need to carefully evaluate and discuss this idea within our team.

  3. Expanding Voice and Language Options
    Providing a wider range of voices and languages is definitely part of our long-term plan! However, for SVS models like ACE Studio and Synthesizer V, supporting new languages requires significant effort in recording and annotating vocals. This process is more time-consuming compared to SCV-based AI voices, but we are continually working to improve our efficiency.

    In the near future, we are preparing to release support for Italian, French, German, and Portuguese. We also hope to collaborate with more diverse vocalists to expand our offerings further.

Thank you again for your suggestions and support!

Regards,

Maxine

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Maxine, I am astonished at your software and its capabilities.

ACE Studio will be such an amazing tool for creating mockups when it can be driven directly from Dorico. I look forward to that day when this is possible.

To me, this is the “Holy Grail” of notation software, to be able to create a vocal mock-up with lyrics as quickly as one can create an instrumental mockup.

Thank you!

I totally agree. Will it happen? It will be a small number, but as someone who uses Dorico as a DAW, I sincerely hope that the time will come! Dorico and Acestudio are great music software!

Hi Glenn, thank you for your support and kind words!

Currently, you can easily create mockups by exporting MIDI or MusicXML files from Dorico and importing them into ACE Studio. We are constantly exploring ways to better integrate ACE Studio with notation software to make this process even more seamless.

Some ideas that haven’t been mentioned in this thread yet…

You could sync Logic with Dorico as the master via timecode using the TXL Timecode Plugin. TXL gets hosted in Dorico. The Dorico transport needs to be the master. So, your DAW will stay in sync with Dorico automatically. It doesn’t work the other way around tho’ (manipulating the transport controls in the DAW does nothing to/for Dorico). Using this method you might have more options if you wish to ‘warp’ the tempo of a rendered audio file and get automatic tune correction and such (VariAudio in Cubase), or conversely, extract enough information from an audio file in the DAW to create a precise ‘tempo map’ that could be exported from the DAW then imported into Dorico.

Personally, in lieu of the trick to mux audio into a video file that others have mentioned…when all I want to do is sync audio tracks in Dorico I use a plugin instance of Bidule. As long as the track(s) fit in RAM, I can keep them in perfect sync with Dorico’s transport.

I call my little bidule network for this “Dorico Tracker” (link provides a description and screen shots, as well as the bidule layout file). It works by setting up a sync extractor bidule that will provide other bidules an ASIO Sample count. I can then set up a simple offset relative to the sample count Dorico supplies with some math bidules as to where the audio should begin playing. The audio file player stays in sync based on my offset sample count. So, no matter where I start/stop the score playing, the audio plays when and where it should.

I don’t think bidule provides any prebuilt tools to make a tempo map for an audio file. Some other software would be needed for that (I use Cubase, and sometimes find Spectral Layers helpful if I need to ‘unmix’ elements of an audio track for better automatic tempo detection).

Note that neither of these options will automatically do things like ‘time warp and tune correct’ the audio file if the tempo is changed in Dorico.

Another option…use Spectral Layers to unmix a rendered audio file. While it might not be able to separate out every instrument of every mix, it can usually get enough to save quite a bit of time on transcribing music from an audio file. I don’t know about Logic, but Cubase/Nuendo have features that can convert monophonic audio tracks to MIDI pretty well (possibly some types of polyphonic tracks as well). One could transcribe the audio completely to MIDI in the DAW then export it for live instruments over in Dorico. Again, with Cubase/Nuendo 14, it can export a Dorico ready score for further ‘formatting and engraving’ touches. Cubase/Nuendo 13 and older can export Dorico friendly XML scores.