Improve player/instrument delete dialog

Hi all,

I have a feature request about improving the dialogs that appears when an instrument or a player is deleted.

As you can see in the attached images, the above mentioned dialogs don’t tell which player or instrument is about to be deleted. They only tell you the danger about the deletion of the the player/instrument.

If, after starting the deletion of a player/instrument, you are distracted and come back to the dialogs you don’t have any clue about which player/instrument you were deleting. So I normally have to cancel the operation.

Here the request: can you please add in the dialog message on in its (currently empty) title bar the name of the player/instrument to be deleted?


Claudio

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Yes!
I have recently noticed this!

More specificity would definitely help!

I don’t really understand: you have picked the Player you want to delete, then click Delete (the trash icon), then you get this dialogue to confirm you are doing the right thing, then you confirm (or cancel). It’s so straightforward, why are you hesitating? How can one get distracted?
Btw. this extra window had been introduced quite immediately after the very first release of Dorico, because some users preferred a second thought.
If the information of the Player you choose gets shown another time, you could again have second doubts. It’s not really helping the process imo.
Also you can make a selection of multiple players to be deleted, do you really want to see this information listed a second time?
It reminds me a little bit of people driving back home multiple times to check whether the ironing board has really been switched off. :wink:

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The Player that you’re deleting will be highlighted in the left-hand panel, won’t it?

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You can always simply hit Esc, which cancels the whole operation, so that you can take a moment to contemplate your choices with more care.

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Yes Daniel, is what normally I do.
I just think that I would be nice to have it in a feature version.
Anyway, thank you for your answer and for the wonderful work you and the team are continuosly doing.

You are right Ben for the player. Not for the instrument (see next image).
In fact it can also be worse: look at the last image, where a player is selected but I’m deleting an instrument on a non-selected player (by clicking the 3-dots button).

…then someone knock at the door, or the home phone rings, or…

…and only then you go back to your dialog where you were removing one of your 60+ orchestral players to cleanup your score from unused instruments, and, not remembering which, you have to cancel the operation because the dialog is not helping.

It could (would?) look worse if you were trying to delete many players simultaneously, or even just one (e.g. a percussionist) holding many instruments, with Dorico attempting to fit all of that information into the title bar of a small dialog.

It is clear that my suggestion/request only works for a single player/instrument.
For multiple maybe something like “Deleting these 3 instruments…”, or just a title Delete “Trumpet” / Delete 3 Instruments will fit, giving that bit of more context.

Or next time the doorbell rings, press esc as suggested.

These I view as separate operations (deleting players vs deleting instruments). You happen to have a player highlighted, but you elected to do the “delete instrument” task which is not even relevant to that highlighted player. Sure, I reckon Dorico could un-highlight the Cornet in this context, but if you know you’re deleting an instrument which you literally just the three dots to do, I don’t really see why having a player highlighted would be that confusing or distracting. But I’m not opposed to any clarity either.

Two tiny areas that have always bugged me in this department, but are super minor: with multiple players selected, I wish the menu option in English were plural - Delete Players. Just a bone to pick as an English major in college :wink: And secondly, with multiple players selected I wish you could right-click to do multiple operations such as “Delete Selected Players.” However, right-click always deselects all but the one you right-clicked on.