How do I move this straggler from page 2 over to page 1? In finale it would automatically go to page one if there was room for it.
The same is true in Dorico.
It’s hard to tell from a screenshot, but it looks like there’s a lot of blank space above that system on the right. Has it been moved in staff spacing mode?
Can you share the project file here?
OK thanks for the feedback. Someone on Facebook helped me, but it still took about 8 open windows to Dorico Help, and Google AI, and several rabbit holes to explain and define each term and step in the various explanations. Severe learning pains over here!
Had you posted the file here, you would likely have had a solution (with a clear explanation) in just a few minutes.
Beat, I can tell you what to do to solve this on the iPad version:
- Go to Setup Mode, select and delete that Layout (Tenor sax).
- Recreate a Layout for that player.
OK I am having the same problem again, but with a different piece. I went through the same steps that helped me before (Engrave mode, select note at beginning of song, formatting panel [which this time I couldn’t find], click create frame break) but it didn’t happen this time. So I am sharing the file.
Forest Flower.dorico (850.4 KB)
If you don’t see the formatting panel, then first make sure you have the graphic editing tool selected (1), and then click the panel flyout button (2).

A frame break isn’t going to help you here. The issue is that you have manually respaced systems, including a very large gap before your last system. You can see this if you click the staff spacing tool (in the iPad version, the 3rd one down in that toolbar). All of the red lines indicate that you have moved those systems.
I would start by removing all these manual changes.
Then you’ve got two options to get everything onto one page. One is to go into Layout Options > Vertical Spacing > Minimum Gaps and lower the inter-system gap until everything fits; it looks like a value of 7 will do it.
The other way is to select the first note in the piece and the last one, and use the Make Into Frame button.
Hello Beat, the answer is right above your post ![]()
Afterwards proceed with only one step (as Aaron suggests) reduce the Inter-system gap for that layout.
OK I did the first suggestion, and kept lowering the minimum between staves down to 4 and nothing happened. When I did the second suggestion of making selection into a frame I got this:
Sorry I don’t know what all that means. Pretend I’m like 8 years old. Well never mind, pretend I’m 64 and not a technology native, but a technology immigrant. Specifically the delete the layout, tenor sax, recreate part. How?
Not the minimum between staves – the minimum between systems.
On my system, changing this to 7 got everything onto one page.
Ah, didn’t see that I needed to scroll down to find that option. That did it. Thanks! I’m sure I’ll be back with something else!
Yes Beat, if you go to Setup Mode you will see all layouts in the right panel. If you have major problems with one specific layout, you can just create an additional one. Have a look at the bottom of that panel and the plus sign.
If you select the then new layout in the right panel, you will have options by clicking onto the three dots (again in the bottom of that panel). You can rename the layout, you can specify which player will be shown in the new layout (choose tenor sax).
You can also delete the old, messed up layout.



