Inputting multi-note tremolo on sixteenth triplets

[darkneutron]

Hello!
I would need to write a multi-note tremolo on sixteenth triplets but
I dont know hot.
heres what i have so far

[ObiwanKenobi]

May be this can help you :

Tremolos with panel

Tremolos with popover

[darkneutron]

Thank you! I did not know actually how to enter them with popover,
so it was veyy usevful infro for me.
However, i did not find a possibiliy to enter tremolos with sixteenth triplets.
Maube it is not possible?

[dspreadbury]

You can create multi-note tremolos on any pair of notes. Perhaps you can show an example of what you are struggling to create?

[darkneutron]

I am wondering how could I change this 16th note tremolos
to sixteenth triplet note tremolos.

[Christian_R]

@darkneutron

sixteenth triplet note tremolos.

Hi @darkneutron, look at this enlightening post (and thread):

How to insert these multi-note tremolos from Brahms with dotted tuplets?!

For the first tremolo, put two dotted sixteenths in 3:6y tuplets inside a 6:4x tuplet before applying a one stroke multi-note tremolo. For the second tremolo, put two dotted quarters in 3:3e tuplets inside a 12:8x tuplet before applying a two strokes multi-note tremolo. Then hide the inner tuplet numbers and the outer tuplet bracket: [Image] In Engraving Options > Tremolos > Multi-note Tremolos, set Appearance of half note (minim) tremolos to All lines join stems. Edit: Note that the playbac…

[darkneutron]

I see, thanks!
So it should be like this, right?

[rkrentzman]

This is incorrect. All the quarter notes should be dotted.

Six 16th’s = One dotted quarter

[darkneutron]

oh right.
bit if i put from this position

3:6y
I end up with this

and cannot ontinue from there

however, when i want to enter eight notes with dotes under 6 tuplet, it works.
But maybe i am doing smth wrong

[Janus]

This thread should help you…

How to insert these multi-note tremolos from Brahms with dotted tuplets?! - Dorico - Steinberg Forums

[Christian_R]

Hi @darkneutron, following the suggest post instructions, I made a little chart with the steps for two types of dotted tremolo tuplets, with the tuplet values shown, for clarity, in case it could be of some help:

Dorico file:
Dotted Tremolo Tuplets.dorico (611.3 KB)

Screenshot:

You may want to adjust these two Engraving options:

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For a quite amazing explanation of how it works see this post by @johnkprice :

How to insert these multi-note tremolos from Brahms with dotted tuplets?!

Normally, when a multi-note tremolo is applied to a pair of notes having the same duration, the resulting tremolo contains two notes with twice the duration of the notes to which the tremolo was applied. For the first tremolo, the outer 6:4x tuplet means we want six 16th notes in the time of four 16th notes. To obtain a multi-note tremolo containing two dotted eighth notes, we must initially enter two dotted 16th notes. However, those two notes only have the duration of three 16th notes, and we…

[darkneutron]

Thank you! It is very helpful!

[darkneutron]

But it is impossible to set the playback to play it correctly, right?

[Christian_R]

@darkneutron

But it is impossible to set the playback to play it correctly, right?

@darkneutron
You can add a staff for those bars, and write down the exact notes for playback, and suppress playback for the original notes. Then you can remove the staff again or, better hide it with manual staff visibility: the playback of the added staff remains even if the staff is not visible:

Video example (before hiding the staff with MSV or removing the +1 Staff deleting the signpost):

[darkneutron]

Thanks!

[darkneutron]

I tried hiding them in staff- manual staff visibilty
but still it shows on the score

what should i do?

[darkneutron]

anyone?

[PjotrB]

I think they play back correctly anyway, and you don’t need ossias at all. I can’t check right now (reading the forum on my phone).