# Inserting pages apparently shifts vertical spacing?

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/inserting-pages-apparently-shifts-vertical-spacing/719011 "2021-05-15T19:53:43Z")\
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Inserting pages has _always_ removed vertical spacing adjustments, as these are tied to the page, not to the music. For clarity: they are indeed tied to the music frame, but when you insert pages, the music frames themselves don’t move - just what’s contained within them.

This has improved a little in recent updates (see [Vertical spacing + page insert request - #4 by Lillie\_Harris](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vertical-spacing-page-insert-request/708059/4) for instance) but you’re best off either adding prefatory pages before you start laying out the music, or constructing them in a text editor and prepending them at the PDF stage (as I last typed this morning:)

> [@Orchestral parts - any tips?](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/orchestral-parts-any-tips/718917/2):
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> If you’re building a contents page or a cover page, either do that first - or at least put in placeholder custom master pages at the front of each part - or commit to doing that job in a word processor or other third-party application. If you insert pages at the beginning, later, you’re likely to lose any changes that are tied to individual pages: staff spacing’s the obvious one (and it’s rare you should need to tweak that manually, but even so).

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