I’m wondering if I’m alone in experiencing this issue or if it’s happening to others (or I’m missing something glaringly obvious). I’m having an issue with my inspector effects section toggling different effects locations while I’m making changes to plug-in settings.
E.g.: If I’m making changes to a plug-in that’s located on the “Track”, the inspector will randomly toggle to the “Output” section. Thus, if I want to make changes to a different plug on my “Track” effects, I have to re-select the orange “Track” tab.
I’ve even had this issue while loading a plug-in chain: For instance, I’ll select the red “Output” tab in the inspector, open the menu and load my metering chain, only to have it toggle the “Track” tab unprompted and load the metering chain into that section, overwriting the processing plug-in chain that I’ve been working on, forcing me to undo.
Not the end of the world, but super annoying to have to toggle back and forth and be sure I’m not loading chains in the wrong location. Anyone else seeing this?
There is a toggling only if the option is activated in the dialog picture I told you, and this happens when you select a track or clip of the output tab.
It is not obvious from your description what your exact action is, that causes the toggling.
My Plug-in window handling is set to one window per plug-in. The '“auto switch between tracks and clips” option is not checked.
In my video, the only thing I’m doing is clicking on the “Track” tab on the inspector. I’m not doing anything else on the mouse or keyboard.
I’ve been trying different things to dependably recreate this issue – it seems like if I have my metering plugs open from the “Output” section on my second video monitor while having either the “Clips” or “Track” selected, WL will jump from the “Clips” or “Track” section of the inspector over to the “Output” section upon playback.
If I move the metering plugs to my main monitor in front of me, there is no issue. Almost like there’s some strange interaction between WL and my secondary video monitor. It’s obviously nice for my workflow to have the monitoring plugs open on my second monitor so I can view my project and any processing plugs on my main monitor without WL jumping around in the background.
I hope this was illuminating and not confusing! Any ideas?
I think I understand what the poster is referring to and,can:
confirm the behavior: and
confirm it’s been this way across a couple of versions
at least on Windows systems.
What exactly happens is this:
Insert plugin chain to Track Output only … no plugins in any other window (Clip FX or Output etc)
Press play on the montage, or maybe do some envelope moves.
Go back to inspector.
About 90% of the time Inspector displays opens on a different effects window to Track FX that you were last working in. It is like it always seems to ‘think’ you are going to want to insert an effect elsewhere where there are none … when in fact you just want to go to the last used window: Track FX to check or alter a setting in the Track FX already inserted.
All this means is a single click to re-display the Track Effects window. This is no big deal for me but I get the poster’s frustrations.
There is, at least in my experience, no ‘default’ that the window display goes to. That is, it could be Clip FX, Output FX , whatever … just probably not Track FX that you wre using.
I never reported this because I thought the behavior was deliberate in that it anticipated the likelihood of a user wanting to insert FX in another blank window.
Hope this helps and that I have understood the OP issue correctly.
Sorry, but despite your explanations, I cannot reproduce something wrong. Probably I have overlooked some steps. A detailed screen recording (not with a phone), could help.
Paul, thanks for chiming in. I’ve done a quick screen recording to help show this issue. Also attached is a screen shot of the metering plugs that are open on my second monitor. In it you can see that when playback is started “Clip” is selected in the inspector, it automatically jumps over to “Output”. Same goes if I select “Clip” while there is no playback, it still jumps over to “Output”. Again, this issue does not happen if the metering plugs are viewed on my primary monitor.
Indeed. I’m using the standard Apple magic trackpad.
This issue becomes especially annoying if, as I said earlier in the thread, I’m trying to upload a saved plug-in chain. If the inspector “switches” while opening and loading from the menu, I end up loading the chain into the wrong location, e.g., processing being loaded into the output section, which can get really bothersome if I’m working quickly and make changes downstream before catching the issue, e.g. an additional processing plug on the output stage.
My only theory is that it has something to do with the metering plugs being open in the second monitor, prompting WL to somehow “think” that I’m selecting those open plugs when in fact I am not.
Could be a Mac thing, I suppose. Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. I’m assuming that this workflow setup – having metering plugs open on a separate screen – isn’t that uncommon.
Yes, if you activate the plugin window, there is also a tab switch. But this activation does not come from nowhere. If you have the chance, try for a while with a standard mouse and do not use your trackpad.
As this looks to be relevant … on my main machine, I use a Razer gaming mouse (basic). This indeed could be a possible factor as scrolling with that affected the nicely coded DMG TrackControl (which they ‘fixed’ BTW).
This might be telling me to get a new mouse maybe.
