That’s a reasonable view. The heat is necessary here in Canada.
I’m still not satisfied with the 12900KF - for other reasons. The more I use it, I find there are just weird usage issues with windows 11. The cursor will jump around, the scrolling on sites scrolls down and suddenly for no reason goes back to the top. It’s not great like the last i7/win 10 machine I had - which I liked more for no real reason except it seemed to be free of bugs and very stable. This machine will crash occasionally for no apparent reason, and then not do it again for weeks or months. Strange things like this happen, and they really shouldn’t. I’m worried the intel advantage is gone and people are just optimizing for apple way more, and maybe a little for AMD too… it all still works, but the feel is less than perfect. Big shame that is. I really wish I had waited for the next AMD or even finally bought into the apple cult with the M2 chips on the way.
I love the idea of all the worlds data centres and computers and laptops being energy efficient - the planet needs it to be - like yesterday.
That almost sounds like a problem with your peripherals, with the keyboard/mouse/trackball. So maybe a USB issue if that’s how they connect, or a mechanical one where they end up sending commands they shouldn’t.
Also seems like a hardware failure. Sorry to hear you’re having problems, the latest Intel chips “should” give good performance.
Actually, the latest windows 11 updates and new drivers have erased all the little bugs that were there when this system was new. I think the release was rushed a little.
This. If you work with groups and busses (what nearly all people do, who need a powerful CPU), single core performance is what you should look at. And in that case, Intel is way ahead of AMD according to performance benchmarks.
October will be interesting. We’ll have AMD’s new CPUs then and the launch statements by AMD look very good. Obviously they’re biased, but they’ve shown to be pretty accurate generally.
There was another slide somewhere that listed performance-per-watt uplift for Zen 4 over Zen 3 and it was pretty incredible iirc. So it seems they indeed achieved what they said - cores that are very power efficient which will allow them to run them at low clock speeds saving power as well as now pushing them harder than ever with an increased ceiling for power usage (i.e. higher performance).
And then on top of the improvements in core performance there’s of course DDR 5 support which we saw in the DAWbench benchmarks gave Intel’s CPUs their lead over Ryzen. So October should be very interesting.
Did you buy a zen 4? I sold my intel machine parts and have been playing acoustic instruments while I wait for stuff to get insanely powerful and much more stable. the 12900k was not reliable enough for me. I think it was my mother board in the end though. When I sold the bits and pieces I noticed the board had some signs of damage from heat. Water cooled CPUs don’t move enough air to keep the board cool it seems. Even with ample case fans, it all gets vacuumed up by the triple fan/radiator and the GPU, leaving parts of the board like the CPU power area and the LAN area to get really hot. I’m fairly certain a bad board or some melted components are going to affect your stability. This is a case for Apple and M2 CPUs. I can’t believe I’m finally saying that out loud, to the world - to myself! I’ve always hated that rotten company for killing the music industry, extorting everyone for the markets they create, the child labour they used, the taxes they don’t pay, and the planned obsolescence in all their products… but they finally have the best laptop on the market. It’s cheap. Powerful, and their software usually works really well with their hardware. They finally, finally after decades, have the best product out there.
I’m still not getting one. I like an underdog too much.
Not yet. I still haven’t maxed out my 5900X during normal work. I do post production (audio to picture) and my processing chains aren’t that long so I don’t need my ‘fastest’ core to be that fast, yet. And in terms of project size / width I figure I can probably double the size before I get into trouble since the 12 cores I have are powerful enough so far.
Having said that there are processing I’m currently not doing in realtime and if I start doing that and if plugins get more demanding then I might need to upgrade. But I figure I’m still probably about a year or two away from that.
As a matter of fact though I’m thinking about buying another 5xxx-series Ryzen and plop it into my previous x370 computer that’s still lying around. I think it has enough components to still run so… Might grab one on sale this year. One of the good things about AMD’s platform longevity.
