Internal Super Clips (apparently) not rendering

Wavelab Pro 13 (in the middle of projects - haven’t upgraded to 13.0.10) seems not to render the linked montage for internal super clips on save. (MacOS v. 15.7.3)

I prefer having plugins on clips in the parent montage, so perhaps that’s some part of the problem (I copied/pasted them after creating the super-clip then removed them from the sub-montage). But, edits (slices, external editor, etc.) never made it to the parent montage. The work around was to render the internal sub-montage and replace the super clip with the rendered audio file. That breaks the connection to the sub montage. It’s workable, as everything is still saved in the WL Project, but it’s not as smooth as it could be.

Am I missing something?

I want all of the slices, edits via RX/etc., and “comping” in the sub-montage and all clip effects on the internal super clip in the parent montage, and I’m not clear on how to do that and actually have WL actually render the sub-montage on save, which appears to have no effect.

I did the following simple test:

  • Create a montage
  • add clip
  • transform it as a super clip
  • in the sub montage, change the envelope of the clip
  • in the parent montage, add a clip gain at -12
  • Render the whole parent montage to an audio file.

Is that a simplified version of your case?
Here my test renders the expected audio file.

Not exactly, though testing exactly what steps to give you did clarify my question.

Steps to reproduce:

  1. Create a montage
  2. add a clip
  3. transform it to a super-clip
  4. edit a section of the internal sub montage in an external editor (any edit, e.g., mute a section - for this test, I muted a big section so the waveform change would be obvious visually)
  5. Save the sub-montage
  6. Save the parent montage

At this point, playing the parent montage does not play the change to the sub-montage. It plays the clip as it was originally “sent” to the sub-montage.

If you render the parent montage, Wavelab renders the sub-montage, the waveform changes obviously, and then it renders the parent montage, all with the expected changes.

I’d like to be able to hear the changes to the sub-montage without having to render the parent montage fist. Actually doing this in practice involves going back and forth between parent and sub-montages.

So….

Clarified question: Is there a way to preview changes to the i-Super Clip (made in the sub-montage) or force wavelab to render the sub-montage when playing rather than rendering the Parent Montage.

-js

ETA/PS - I guess rendering the parent montage to an unnamed file and then discarding it would force rendering of the sub montage. Correct? If you don’t save the unnamed file, does Wavelab delete the pointless temp file in the background?

It seems you have forgotten to call this function. This is not automatic. This is a manual operation because it can take time. So this only happens when you specify it.

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That worked.

I never saw that option in the manual - it definitely said that happened automatically.