You’ll need to use the VST2 version of VE Pro, so keep that in mind setting up your instances
why vst2? There must be something I haven’t been following!
Because Program Change is used to switch matrices. PC is not available in VST3
We have just released the two new packages Articulate Presets for Woodwinds S and Brass S, covering both the VSL Special Woodwinds and Brass Collection libraries as well as the Single Instrument libraries Clarinet 2, Bassoon 2, Trumpet Bb (both standard and muted) and Flugelhorn.
Therefore, in addition to the full Strings Bundle, Articulate Presets cover now also the entire content of the Woodwinds and Brass Bundle. Correspondingly all contemporary orchestral instruments included in the world’s largest virtual orchestra are now fully accessible in Dorico!
ok – I do now remember this being discussed
To give more VSL users the chance to check out Articulate Presets, we have added the complete Articulate Preset for Cellos S to the free demo content. Thereby the new demo Playback Template implements now 5 Dorico solo/section players (Flute (solo & section), Viola (section with full dimension control), Violoncello (solo and section)).
So if you are using any of the VSL Woodwinds 1 or 2, Solo, Chamber or Dimension Strings libraries and want to see how the entire orchestral content included in the VSL Vienna Instruments series is implemented into Dorico via the unique Articulate Map, simply download the full-featured demo package:
After importing the appropriate Playback Template (standard or full) into Dorico you can immediately play your own scores (while other instruments are taken from the HSO) and check out the comprehensive features of the implementation without any restrictions. Enjoy!
Thanks for providing these presets! As an owner of VSL Symphonic Cube Full, Dimension Strings and Dimension Brass, and Voices (and of course Dorico), I’m really interested in your presets.
I have a few questions for you:
- Your link above https://www.articulate-preset.com/media doesn’t seem to work: instead https://www.articulate-preset.com/demos is working.
- You stated that a completely revised version 2 of the Dorico Articulate Map was out: do you mind rendering Akinola / Dorico Prelude with this new version for a comparison with the previous one please?
- Do you plan to provide presets for VSL voices ( Choir and possibly Solo Voices)?
Thanks so much for informing us about the wrong link, we fixed it and it works again. I hope the Dorico demo itself worked fine.
The rendition of the Akinola score on our website already uses the new Articulate Map as well as Dimension Brass, while the previous version, posted above, used the old Map and Symphonic Cube Brass.
Voices is on top of the list of potential future extensions .
All the best
I wanted to test the Articulate Map demo before its price increase but went into a problem: Vienna Instrument Pro is not in the VIs popup in Play mode.
As far as I understand, VI Pro hasn’t a VST3 version (on the contrary to Vienna Instrument, not the pro): is there a way to make it available?
Can it be done through a VST white list?
Thanks for your help!
yes VI pro is VST2, like many other plug-ins (including the VSL Synchron Player). As you write, it can simply be white-listed in Dorico and everything will work fine (the procedure is also described in the Setup section of the manual).
are you sure, Kai? VI Pro is only VST2 but the Synchron player and piano have VST3 versions (which would normally be preferred to the VST2 ones). Of course your maps are designed for VI Pro.
Incidentally, the latest release of Dorico, v3.5.12 has supposedly fixed the issue of VST2’s being blacklisted on occasion so putting VI Pro on the white list, if necessary, should work fine.
Maybe for some reason I only have the VST2 version installed, but I had to whitelist it in Dorico:
by default both vst 3 and 2 versions of the Synchron player are installed (although of course it’s possible that you for some reason didn’t actually install vst3). It’s irrelevant if a vst2 is listed as blocked when there is a version 3 available. It’s exactly the same on my installation. The actual listing is often confusing and is only useful if you need to specifically whitelist a vst2 because it’s all that’s available. Perhaps this whole business will be tidied up in a future update.
Thanks for all the answers, @symphonic-riot I don’t know why I didn’t see the chapter in your documentation about white listing in Dorico (perhaps midnight was too late for me ;-))!
So I tested the demo and it is quite impressive (what a work, congrats)!
Just a few small bugs on playing a staff but notes from another staff are highlighted and a problem when 2 articulations are following one after another, but I have to check more…
As an owner of Cube full, Dimension Strings I and Dimension Brass I (and also a few MIRx), I’m gonna get 3 articulate presets: Symphonic Cube Full, Strings D and Brass D
Thank you and congrats again for your great work @symphonic-riot, I hope discovering more articulate presets from you!
thanks for clarifying! I don’t use the Synchron Player much so far and was not aware of this.
thanks so much!
I am sorry if this wasn’t clear enough: the section is in the dedicated Dorico manual - not the main Articulate Presets manual.
Sorry to hear you had some problems. I am a bit puzzled about the problem you are having with the different staffs and highlighting. The playback of different staffs should be independent in Dorico - so far we did not have problems with this ourselves or got corresponding feedback from our users. Please send us a private message with a bit more details so that we can look into the issues you had.
Thanks and best regards
I am interested in obtaining your software as soon as it is 100% compatible with the new VSL Syncron Player. I just became a VSL subscriber, so I “never knew” a time when there was not a Syncron Player. Please advise.
Thanks for your interest in our software.
Articulate Presets and the Articulate Map cover most of the Vienna Instruments (VI) Series. The latter presents the world’s largest virtual orchestra and covers basically every instrument that appears in an orchestral context in various versions and section sizes. It is based on dry “Silent Stage” recordings that offer complete flexibility to place them in various different venues (ranging from recording studios to concert halls and churches) via the corresponding MIRx extensions directly in the powerful VI pro player, that is optimized for this task. This allows a composer/musician to get a realistic idea how a piece will sound when it is actually performed in a corresponding venue. The Synchron Series is based on wet multi-microphone recordings in a single scoring venue (Synchron Stage Vienna) and the Synchron Player is optimized for such an approach. However, even 3 years after the first release, there is not even a basic Synchron Orchestra, yet (only Strings and Percussion so far, and even for these essential playing techniques are still missing).
We would love to release Articulate Presets for (genuine) Synchron libraries (i.e. Strings 1, Pro, …) that are compatible with the Articulate Map and all Articulate Presets for the VI series, and we will do so as soon as possible. The problem is that so far the Synchron Player is too limited to allow us to realize all the features the VI presets offer. The Synchron Player e.g. only offers a small number of slots in each dimension and therefore is presently not compatible with the Articulate Map. This could easily be overcome if the VSL would make the selection criteria in the Synchron Player slightly more flexible. We had proposed ways to implement this without much effort and are confident that this will be done in the future.
However, there are no plans to release Articulate Presets for “synchronized” libraries. These libraries are based on the same recordings as (a selection of) the VI libraries, but the Synchron Player restricts them to the single Synchron venue. Moreover, the Synchron Player does not offer many of the advanced features of the Vienna Instruments Player, yet (Auto Voicing, APP Sequencer, …) that Articulate Presets rely on. Now that the VSL has just released Synchron Stage MIRx venues (in addition to all the various other venues available for Vienna Instruments) there is really no need to port the presets to another player, if this even restricts what can already be done.
The VSL already provides Dorico support for their Synchron and Synchronized libraries. Therefore, using the new Synchron MIRx venue all Synchron, Synchronized as well as the many VI Series libraries supported by the Articulate Map are already 100% compatible, in the sense that you can use all of them together in the Synchron Stage in the same Dorico score and all standard score symbols will be played correctly. Articulate Presets and the Articulate Map offer even more detailed control over the nuances of the playback, but these additional features are optional and due to the mentioned limitations up to now restricted to VI libraries.
I hope this helps.
All the best
I really do appreciate your very, very in-depth reply. I’m not even sure I understand everything you wrote here, as I am a relatively new Dorico user and very new VSL user. It appears I have “joined the VSL family” just as they are making the change in direction away from their Vienna Instruments (VI) Series to the Syncron Series Player. I have only purchased Syncron and Syncron-ized package for this reason. I am not at all certain how Vienna Instruments (VI) Series is different from Syncron Player. I do think I am a future customer of your company, as you clearly seem committed to excellence in support products for the Vienna / Dorico platform. For now, I write chamber music for Strings, Woodwinds, and Percussion, as all of those packages are available with Syncron player. The “wet stage” as you describe works well for my purposes. Please add email@example.com to your mailing list and keep me informed as you release products that enhance the Syncron Player experience.
Very best regards,
For the Synchon-ized versions of the Special Edition collection, VSL they have already released Expression Maps. I have written my own for the libraries I own (including SE vol1, 2 and 5) as have a few other Dorico users so you probably won’t be stuck.
Kai is not alone in preferring the older VI libraries and he’s done a fine job with them. Personally, I’ll probably stick to the new format even if it is currently not quite so full featured but all of my Sibelius VSL works were done with the VI Pro player.
sorry for the complicated answer . I know there are a lot of similar VSL libraries and it must be very hard for new users to figure out the differences. The Synchron Stage is a very nice venue and if you are happy with the sound and the instruments that are available for it by now that’s perfect. I hope dko22’s or other user maps (e.g. there are also maps for SY Solo Strings) allow you to use all your libraries in Dorico.
thanks so much for clarifying. I somehow got the wrong impression that the VSL covers these libraries by now (the VSL Dorico package includes dozens of Expression Map for Synchronized libraries), but as you write they so far apparently only cover the Special Editions, as well as the Synchronized Woodwinds. It is great that your maps fill this gap!