I was wondering what the most up to date and clean workaround is for hidden noteheads with visible stems, specifically for glissandi. (and the result wanted in both score and parts) I attached a pic of my typical glissandi writing in Finale (which is an awful process that takes countless hours and still ends up with either gaps or intersections between the stems and lines).
Make a custom notehead set with only one notehead, in the editor check both âuse for durationsâŚâ checkboxes, name it Headless or whatever. Be aware to not just delete the old notehead but enter a text element with only a space!
(This is because you need something to select if you want to copy it)
Now select the notes you want to hide, right click, choose notehead/headless
Thanks, but with this method the ledger lines remain. They need to go away.
Does anyone know how to get rid of the unwanted ledger lines?
(See the screen shot bar 37, violin 2 (I assume).
If anyone is a perfectionist and you have a stem thatâs going to leave a slight gap or intersect, in engrave mode you can just drag the stem handle until itâs upside down, then alt-down the note in write mode until itâs roughly where it needs to be, go back to engrave mode and adjust the handle till itâs just right. (so in that bottom example, the 3rd beat is actually a 3rd-line B) But actually before I did that it was really pretty good already, definitely closer than in Finale.
Awesome stuff! Iâve been labouring on the same issue, but whenever I try to create a new notehead, which means that I choose one of the existing notehead designs and edit it in order to get the invisible notehead, those changes are carried over to very sets which also use the preexisting notehead.
How would I be able to create a completely new notehead set which is independent from the ones already provided by the program?
Ah yes, now I got it! You people only forgot to mention that one not only needs to create a new note head set, but within it also add a completely NEW NOTEHEAD as well â and only then delete the remaining other pre-existing notehead (w/o modifying it).
Then it all works flawlessly! Awesome!
Itâs strange, but if I want to duplicate passages with invisible noteheads (which I created with the editor) and I duplicate just with shortcut ârâ, the invisible noteheads are NOT dublicated. Only if I take my selecting tool â choose the whole passage â command C â command VâŚ4 steps in place of one. Thatâs a pity. With normal noteheads, shortcut ârâ works perfectly.
Hi Jazzisfaction!
Iâm not sure whether it is the same behavior, but youâll notice that if you hide brackets and numbers for tuplets, and without flags showing, copy and paste, the copied notes are no longer part of any tuplets. This means Dorico copies what is actually visible (or with signposts)
What is surprising here is that copy-paste does work in your case, rather than r being dysfonctionalâŚ
Someone from the team might bring some explanation.
if you once took the select tool and selected the passage with the âunvisible noteheadsâ and you copy-pasted it with command c and command v one single time and you keep it selected, you can go on with shortcut ârâ - then it works perfectly
I am preparing Dorico tutorials as our school is making the switch from Sibelius to Dorico. Is this what I have to teach young composers or is there a simpler way?
Make a custom notehead set with only one notehead, in the editor check both âuse for durationsâŚâ checkboxes, name it Headless or whatever. Be aware to not just delete the old notehead but enter a text element with only a space!
(This is because you need something to select if you want to copy it)
If Dorico came with a ready-made solution it will be described in the Dorico Operation Manual. I do hope that it will be included in the next version. There are other pre-defined noteheads that are less used then the stem without notehead.
I donât think a notehead without a head is the ideal solution to this requirement. It should be automatically handled as part of the creation of the glissando. That is something we plan to address, but I canât say whether or not it will be in the next version.
Just stopping by to say that this is also something I really need a lot since my music uses lots of glissandi
At least itâs already better than in [Competitor] since I can actually put an glissando between the outer notes and Dorico handles all the rest - instead of me having to manually dragging lines around
â I hided the note-heads using Color/Change opacity to 0 to make them headlessâŚ
â Stemless notes where achieved in Engrave mode, I only moved the stems down to SE (south-est) near middle edge of the black note.
Not sure if this what you wanted :-), anyway itâs doable in Dorico.
