# IOS device as midi keyboard **URL:** \ **Category:** Cubase\ **Tags:** cubase-9\ **Created:** [December 29, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922 "2016-12-29T21:50:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lasso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9d8465/32.png) [@Lasso](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Lasso)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/1 "2016-12-29T21:50:31Z")
Simple…I want to use my iPhone / Ipad as a simple midi keyboard with Cubase on my Macbook Pro without an interface. Preferably over bluetooth but ligtning → USB would do. Surely this it possible since I can use IC or whatever to control fader movements and what not. But guess what - Steinberg hasn’t included a simple midi keyboard in IC or IC pro so how do I do it??? ---
**Author:** ![Martin.Jirsak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Martin.Jirsak](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Martin.Jirsak)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/2 "2016-12-31T20:49:47Z")
Hi, Use any iOS app, which sends MIDI Data. ---
**Author:** ![Lasso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9d8465/32.png) [@Lasso](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Lasso)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/3 "2017-01-01T18:06:56Z")
> [@Martin.Jirsak](#): > > Hi, > > Use any iOS app, which sends MIDI Data. The few I found that has midi out didn’t work properly 🙂 Lots of skipped notes and bad sync ---
**Author:** ![Lasso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9d8465/32.png) [@Lasso](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Lasso)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/4 "2017-01-01T18:21:06Z")
Also iPad only - I need it work on iPhone ---
**Author:** ![chimpspanner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@chimpspanner](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/chimpspanner)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/5 "2017-01-04T12:45:20Z")
You tried MusicIO? It allows bi-directional multi-channel audio and MIDI over the lightning connector. I don’t use it any more as I have my iPad hooked up to its own interface (greatly preferably IMO) but I seem to remember MusicIO working well! Although I’m not sure if it has its own keyboard or if you’d have to load one inside of it. The other one is TouchOSC, which I had working over WiFi once but I don’t think it does Lightning. ---
**Author:** ![Lasso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9d8465/32.png) [@Lasso](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Lasso)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/6 "2017-01-06T23:26:06Z")
> [@chimpspanner](#): > > You tried MusicIO? It allows bi-directional multi-channel audio and MIDI over the lightning connector. I don’t use it any more as I have my iPad hooked up to its own interface (greatly preferably IMO) but I seem to remember MusicIO working well! Although I’m not sure if it has its own keyboard or if you’d have to load one inside of it. > > The other one is TouchOSC, which I had working over WiFi once but I don’t think it does Lightning. Thanks the music io seems cool …all I need then is an iOS keyboard that will run on iPhone ---
**Author:** ![plectrumboy](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/plectrumboy/32/218_2.png) [@plectrumboy](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/plectrumboy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/7 "2017-01-06T23:47:47Z")
Have you looked at duet? It’s an app that shares your MacBook (or PC) screen with your iPad. You can move the interface of a VSTi to the iPad and play its keyboard. Doesn’t work with iPhone. There are obviously loads more uses for it as a second screen for your laptop. [Duetdisplay.com](http://Duetdisplay.com) Steve ---
**Author:** ![Tommy80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@Tommy80](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Tommy80)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/8 "2017-01-07T23:13:54Z")
> [@plectrumboy](#): > > Have you looked at duet? It’s an app that shares your MacBook (or PC) screen with your iPad. You can move the interface of a VSTi to the iPad and play its keyboard. Doesn’t work with iPhone. There are obviously loads more uses for it as a second screen for your laptop. [Duetdisplay.com](http://Duetdisplay.com) > > Steve I’m interested in duet. Have you experienced latency with it? GUI, control of faders or VSTi keys? ---
**Author:** ![plectrumboy](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/plectrumboy/32/218_2.png) [@plectrumboy](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/plectrumboy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/9 "2017-01-07T23:25:09Z")
I’m very new to the Mac/iPad world, so bear this in mind. Duet refreshes the iPad display at up to 60fps, and as far as I can see that’s what determines how anything on the iPad screen responds. You’re not using the iPad cpu to drive your vsti, the vsti remains on your Mac or PC and just the gui is moved to the iPad. You can get the iPad display to either mirror the Mac/PC, or create an extended display (which is what you’d do for this sort of application of Duet). It cost me £7.99 from the UK App store, I can’t remember if they do a trial version. Steve. ---
**Author:** ![Martin.Jirsak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Martin.Jirsak](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Martin.Jirsak)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/10 "2017-01-07T23:36:55Z")
Hi, I’m also using Duet. On my iPad mini (1st generation) it’s too slow. But the latest iPad generation works like a charm. ---
**Author:** ![plectrumboy](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/plectrumboy/32/218_2.png) [@plectrumboy](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/plectrumboy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ios-device-as-midi-keyboard/670922/11 "2017-01-07T23:41:41Z")
Yes, I’m playing about with it on an iPad pro, no noticeable lag at all. Steve.