I use Nuendo Live 2 for 64-channel backup recordings twice a week, and it’s been consuming a lot of disk space. Since these events don’t require such high quality, I would like it to save them in FLAC or another “lightweight” format. However, I haven’t been able to find any way to locate this configuration for alteration. Is this possible?
I’m afraid that’s not possible.
What is your input source?
A Yamaha mixer?
You can set the sample rate to 48kHz, that saves half of the disk space compared to 96kHz.
as @st10ss already correctly wrote:
not in Nuendo Live, as it has no batch conversion function and uses the export formats WAV (/ Broadcast) WAV, MP3 and AAF.
You could either use the WaveLab Pro 11 batch conversion to FLAC, or use WaveLab Elements 11 to convert to FLAC manually track by track, or use an OpenSource batch conversion program like this one…:
…or you could even use Audacity (please check project settings before) by dragging all the WAV files you’ve exported “as is” from Nuendo Live and then by using File → Export ↔ Multiple, and by using your preferred settings for FLAC [any compression rate from 1 (lowest) to 8 (highest), in 16 or 24 bits, yet I didn’t test with sample rates higher than 48 KHz].
[-Screenshot 1-] (WaveLab Pro 11)
[-Screenshot 2-] (Audacity 3.xx)
That’s right, my source is a Dante network connected to a CL5.
I think this process is counterproductive for us since the recordings are recurring and only for backup purposes. Converting 64 channels with 2 hours of recording will take up a lot of our time. I suggest using the Ripper to record instead, as it saves in FLAC format. What do you guys think?
Reaper is a beast for its own. But for backup use it could be a solution.
Truthfully, only to record the tracks in a lighter format, even though it’s a less professional program. I know it’s slightly off-topic, but it’s still about Nuendo Live 2. When I started making these recordings, it would take the channel names and add them to the tracks it created, but now it doesn’t show up anymore. Do you know what could be causing this?
I already wrote about what I think, regarding the information you gave above.
If you need to use a more direct method, then you could - of course - use any DAW that directly writes - or exports after recording - multiple tracks to disc as FLAC (as your backup).
Nuendo Live (v2 as well as v3) just doesn’t do that.
However, the full version of Nuendo or Cubase Pro (v12) would do this (multiple track export as FLAC):
(Cubase Pro 12 - since Artist / Elements can’t handle more than 32 or 24 physical inputs)
Yet your available disc space would still be heavily used by writing countless hours / numbers of FLAC files every month (even by using the highest possible FLAC compression).
P.S.: if you don’t want to invest in Cubase Pro right now you could take a look at the latest collaboration between Steinberg and the Splice platform (offering a “rent-to-own” plan that requires 34 payments of USD 16,99 / month).
Thank you for your help. I had chosen Nuendo Live for the convenience of recording directly from the CL5 console, but since the files are too large, I think I’ll only use it for more important recordings. I appreciate your assistance in advance.
Hi again @filipelean,
you’re always welcome.
In any case, Nuendo Live is a good (if not a great) choice for what you’re doing. Perhaps a future version might have FLAC multi track export as well, so maybe a feature request might be a good idea.
And regarding that specific track naming problem…
…I have no idea, since I’m not using Nuendo Live. Can you perhaps give a more detailed description as to when it happens, or by some screenshots made during your workflow, please?
I can’t do it right now as I’m away from the studio, but it’s basically like this: all inputs are connected to a Yamaha RIO, we have 2 CL5 consoles and this computer, all connected via Dante network. I basically open Dante Controller and Virtual Card, and then open Nuendo Live 2. I create a session and start recording. Previously, it used to take the name of each channel like on the consoles, but now it shows a generic name.
Hi again @filipelean,
ok, I see. Sadly, I can’t assist you on that, perhaps @st10ss who should know that console inside-out might be able to reproduce that generic naming effect, so he can perhaps give you a hint.
I think that is not what is needed here.
An extra export step, would make the process more complicated. Remember, event recordings will be very long.
Reaper can write direct to FLAC, Wavpack, MP3, OGG as recording format. No export step necessary.
It’s a good solution for backup recordings.
But I have no experience with other file formats in Reaper so far.
I just used WAV.
It would be a good idea to incorporate this feature into Nuendo Live.
yes, but then also:
why not implement both to Cubase / Nuendo, Nuendo Live, WaveLab, perhaps even VST Live?
Perhaps like this:
- “Convert all tracks to [Lossless Compressed Audio Format]”
- “Write all Tracks to [Lossless Compressed Audio Format]”?
Conversion to [Lossless Compressed Audio Format] should be possible anyway, and I don’t see why it shouldn’'t also be possible for Steinberg to implement something like “Write audio tracks as FLAC encoded files to disc”, or something like that in even more free formats (OGG, OPUS, Wavpack, MP3, etc.). I’m not sure about possible performance limitations or perhaps a necessary maximum track count, though.
an even better solution for multi audio track backups of live situations - and with any modern console and audio network type - would be to have an additional hardware option to backup everything that happens on any channel to SDXC card / to ext. SSD, while recording. This seems to be a trend anyway.
Cheers and thanks,