Is there a difference between setting a tempo at the first note and setting a default tempo?

I have been struggling with this. I created a project, when I created it there was a screen in the Create New Pro which asked me, among other things to set a tempo. I ignored it and wrote a few bars. Now I can’t seem to find it.
I know I can start the project anew, but really all I want ot do is change the default tempo of the project. I can’t seem to find this. Online, the advice is to go shift M whilst selecting teh first note. This leaves a number and a dotted line, it hardly seems elegent and makees me suspect I have the wrong tool?

Z

To set a tempo with the Tempo tool, you want Shift+T, not Shift+M (which is the meter tool).

To indicate a tempo like quarter note = 120, enter q=120 in the popover. (h for half note, e for eighth note.)

You could also include a verbal tempo indication, something like Allegro q=120. Or you could put in just a verbal indication and then set the actual tempo in the lower Properties panel.

This all has the same effect as if you had specified a tempo in the Create New tab in the Hub.

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Hmm I thought I had this corrected. Now, even though I have a tempo marking at teh beginning of the song, of 75, if I change this to 200 bpm nothing happens?

Have you inadvertently engaged fixed tempo mode?
tempo
If the highlighted box is Blue, everything should be OK. But if it is Black, then you are in fixed tempo mode and tempo marks in the score will be ignored.
(you can toggle this on/off by clicking the note)

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I am away from my machine now, but the fixed tempo itself is what I want to alter, how is this done?

In general, fixed tempo mode is best used when you want to “audition” part of a piece at a tempo different from what is set in the piece. Personally, I have never used it.

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Yes, but if your fixed tempo is 60 bpm and you want 165, fixed tempos, can this be done? Without adding addtional tempos?

thank you for your replies

Z

I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking. In general, the best way to set different tempos in your piece is to add them directly to the score; you can hide them, if you don’t want them to display, and they will still take effect. You can add as many as you want.

Fixed tempo mode is basically an override for the tempos in your score. You can engage fixed tempo mode and set a tempo in the toolbar, and Dorico will use that; if you want a different tempo, you’ll need to change it in the toolbar. It’s really not meant to be the primary means of setting a tempo.

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Please don’t use fixed tempo mode. (It will confuse your remaining neuron).
Just set a single tempo (eg. shift-T q=165) at the start of your piece.

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I think I understand. When Dorico uses the term “fixed” tempo it does not mean default tempo. MY bad. I am talking about setting a default tempo at the beginning of a project, for all instruments, that can then be overidden by some kind of variation, later as required. Not trying to be difficult but it is important for me to get the terms right.
I also fell foul to the button on the tool bar which looks like a crotchet= 120. This is what I was searching for. I did not realise it that it does not just click on and off, but has some kind of series of states, depending on whether you click right or left side. I just clicked, it did nothing, (remained blue) so went elsewhere. Newbie mistake, but a tooltip could help.

This is the function I was looking for.

All is well

Thank you.

Z
Thank you

Z

There’s no shame. I agree it is confusing (and IMO a poor design choice).