A brilliant move by Steinberg and makemusic – ensuring that the customers still using Finale - who on the Finale forum ask questions like:
“Why can I not import my Finale 2 score into version 18? I want my money back for my version 18 purchase – and my Finale 2 purchase”
will in the next ten years instead be posting questions on the Dorico forum:
“If I update to Dorico 5.2.3.6 will my Finale medieval hairpins be imported? What? You’re kidding? I would never have paid for Dorico 5 if I had known this”.
Steinberg must believe that the time spent helping such customers will cost less than the $150 they will be required to pay (I say $150 – not more – since if these customers didn’t look past Finale - they will never upgrade their Dorico version).
The brilliant move? These two companies - knowing that this was the typical Finale hold out customer (other than those required to use the app for industry reasons) devised a way that these customers would be FORCED to spend money – be FORCED to change. Well not exactly - not forced to spend money – forced to decide whether they wished to skip using a computer for music notation for the rest of their life – or spend money.
I don’t see how anyone can question the approach taken – when one considers the customers that are involved. These customers must be an absolute NIGHTMARE to support. Both companies should get four times the money they will actually get for having either held onto – or acquired - these people.
My regret is only that the one place that ANY of us can move to is another desert island. The island we are on called Dorico has some truly amazing facilities – it is the venue for some truly innovative work related to both notation and notation related playback - but it is still a desert island – since young people are the future and only an app which is both a DAW and notation app will encourage young people to join a culture of music making where every note and rest is a conscious choice – instead of laying what are - and will be - AI tracks.
I note that Daniel is over at Scoring Notes trying to engage with a Broadway linked person. Does he recognise that Broadway – having used Finale for thirty years – long past its suitability - now needs to move to a single DAW notation app – so that the score and also individual audio rehearsal parts – and any track content - and automation – are edited in a single operation? Does he recognise that the same is true of Hollywood – does he recognise that these groups still don’t have an app they can use which is structured around their needs? (And others whose needs/hopes are the same or similar to these people).
This move has demonstrated that the entire music notation market – instead of being an industry - is an island. Steinberg have no reason to regret that – not unless they make decisions dedicated to the welfare of users ahead of decisions related to profit. To have an industry what we need is two or more all in one apps (perhaps more is possible if the music notation isn’t the only element in the app that must earn the sale). The Dorico team have admitted as much in spending a huge amount of their time on playback instead of notation in the last couple of releases.
Is it a crime to be like London or New York – to want both the best of the past – and the best of the present? It feels like it is – since a LOT of people have been waiting to use such an app for decades.
I will admit that I’ve read your text twice and I’m still not sure what exactly your point is
I read this when it was first posted as a comment on the article on Scoring Notes. What I take from it is that @substanceoverstyle thinks that what is really needed is a single application that can cover all of the functions that traditionally encompass both a DAW and a scorewriter.
I doubt it.
I don’t think that the passion, the need to create has diminished. Or the urge to get down in some form the music which a person hears in their head (specifically).
If I use the island metaphor, I think it’s more like a chain of islands- a pretty big island country if you look further away and in some different directions.
I think wanting the best of the past and present is a common desire on all the different “shores”, though not always expressed in the same terms, not always with the same culture or interests from the past, not very likely to agree on having just “one thing”. And definitely not easy.
The “West Coast Style” modular synthesis community might fit your description of a group that prefers not always making specific musical choices. Whether or not I agree with the philosophy, I find modules like Marbles or Turing Machine to help satisfy a need to just “play”; and not take composing/notation so seriously that I end up blocking myself (which I sometimes do.) Trust me - there’s no easy button there to making a great piece.
But over on those forums, the community seems often to be searching in the opposite direction - Talking about the way an artist notates something, looking for appropriate ways to get more involved in music theory because they like aspects of something they’ve created but they can’t quite get what they want… Or to incorporate all kinds of other instruments.
Anyway -
My ears perked with a tease Daniel made about “knock your socks off” Aleatoric features someday. Good thing I’ve got the distraction of 70% off and which other Steinberg product to buy to keep my head busy. I could see it resonate and spark some things in that other community. I already sometimes send note sets and directions from Dorico to a modular as part of a piece.
Yeah, when I read that my mind imagined users clamoring for Dorico to then play random music in those spots the way a human would play it.