Issue: Control Room stopped working

[babble]

I’m stumped. Control Room was working great for me, and then suddenly, it stopped working as expected. I don’t think I’ve done anything differently, or added anything crazy to my setup.

What is weird is that I see the expected signal in CR - but no sound is coming out.
I have no inserts in CR. If I use the same outputs for my “Stereo Out” in regular Outputs, the speakers work, but not through CR obviously. But when I disconnect those outputs and then set those same outputs as my outputs for CR, it send the signal — as I can see it in CR — but the output doesn’t work.

I’ve tried this through my regular interface at my studio (Antelope Orion 32+), as well as my Built-In Outputs on my MacBook Pro.

I’m stumped, I don’t know if I’m missing something. I don’t think I’m doing anything differently, as everything was working perfectly before.

I’m on Nuendo 14

[babble]

Okay, of course I figure it out two minutes later.
I wasn’t sending the “Metering Channel” to CR. Which…I don’t really understand. I wasn’t having to do this before.

[babble]

UPDATE:
I disconnected my outputs from my “Monitor 1” in CR and it still works as long as they are connected to “Metering Channel”. Hmmm…

I’m confused about this. This isn’t how it was setup before. Is there a reason why my Metering Channel would actually be sending to my Monitor, but not my Monitor in Studio Setup?

Also this doesn’t solve an additional issue that I thought was because I couldn’t use CR. The audio from the Media panel in the Right Zone isn’t sounding. I’m trying to audition loops and sounds. It says they are playing, but I can’t hear them. Is there a way to route where the audio from these samples is going to?

[ggmanestraki]

Babble, it would be best if you could post screenshots of the Audio Connections window (Control Room Tab) and the Control Room Right Zone, so that people can have an easier time understanding what’s what.

[babble]

Here is how I have it set up right now, and it works.

Except, I’m not hearing samples and loops from Mediabay

[ggmanestraki]

What is this Metering Channel? Is it new in 14.0.20? Hm, never caught my eye. Edit: (- Oh, it’s in Nuendo.)

“Control Room - Use Phones Channel as Preview Channel”

I would first check if this preference is checked. If it is checked, you would need to set up a Headphones bus in your Audio Connections, so that the preview has a signal path to go through.

Otherwise, you could un-tick the preference and see if it lets previews through the other Control Room Outputs.

[babble]

Thanks for your help.
Yeah this is so weird. My speakers won’t work unless connected to that Metering channel, but not the Monitor/Speaker channel.

I didn’t have that preference checked, but I messed around with it and nothing changed.
So I decided to create a Headphone Channel in CR Studio Setup, set that to my speakers, and now everything works how it is supposed to if I have “Use Phones Channel as Preview Channel” checked.

I’m not exactly happy about this workaround, and I’m anxious to see if it works when I get to the studio tomorrow. Right now I’m just testing on my Built-In Outputs on my laptop.

[ggmanestraki]

How many outputs do you have on your laptop? Physical outputs I mean.

Edit:

“Control Room - Exclusive Device Ports for Monitor Channels”

Check this preference too.

Here’s what can go wrong: If this preference is not ticked, you can use the ports (physical outputs) in the Outputs tab of the Audio Connections window simultaneously with a Control Room Channel, which doesn’t make much sense.

So, if I had an interface with just two physical outputs, where two speakers would be connected, I would tick this preference and then in the Control Room tab of Audio Connections set it up as a Headphone channel. Why a headphone channel? So that I can scrub, listen to previews, use talkback etc..

In this case (of just 2 outputs), there’s also a strong argument for NOT using Control Room at all, except if one would also like to use the Listen Bus, or quickly swap between the Main mix and a reference track on a Cue for example.

However, if I had an interface with more outputs (or one that at least differentiates between back panel outputs and front panel headphone out), I would set up the monitor speakers as a monitor channel, and the headphones as a headphone channel.

That said, there’s also the possibility that we have made some adjustments through the interface’s (thinking about your Antelope here) routing app that clash with Cubase’s Control room.

TL:DR; apart from those two preferences, double check the relationship between ordinary Outputs in Audio Connections, and Control Room Channels. If push comes to shove, delete everything and make the busses from scratch.

[Johnny_Moneto]

Maybe it is better to ask this question on the Nuendo forum.
The Cubase Control Room has no “Metering Channel”, neither does it have a “Stereo Out”.

[Max_Wave]

+1 same issue here

Meter channel doesnt work either.
I dont have “use phones channel for preview channel” selected.

This feels like a bug in an update.

Preview also became unusable with control room disabled because there is a latency in it bypassing my master bus inserts to preview the sound via the main outs. I dont recall this being an issue before, but the latency exceeds the duration of drum one shots.

Not sure what is going on here…

Can steinberg team help here?

Current Settings:

[babble]

RESOLVED: Control Room not working as expected?

Yeah, I’m not exactly sure why it needs to be there, but it probably makes sense for some workflows that I’m not privy to. I personally would never need to touch that button.

[interzone44]

It’s the teeny tiny icons to the right of the Control Room strip. I can see yours is off. They are really easy to miss. If the little icon beside Main stereo isn’t lit blue then it’s off, same for Cue, same for phones. Click it, choose Mix underneath and everything will work as it should, including the sample browser. You can also set up the L (listen) to monitor Fx excluding the source. If you choose cue under main and hear nothing the little icon for that is at the very top beside cue stereo.
You can just turn them on and off as you need them. You can turn on all your busses as expected in audio connections and manage them in the CR panel.

[showgo]

The control room has the following functions:

Input: Selects the source you want to monitor.

Downmix

Monitor Volume

Monitor Speaker Selector: Allows you to choose between multiple monitor speakers, if available.

The Metering Channel outputs the signal level before the monitor volume. This is intended to ensure that adjustments to the monitor volume do not affect the readings on external meters.

Furthermore, a Listen Bus can be inserted at the input stage. This is typically used to check the audio of a specific channel without affecting the main mix. It can also be used to monitor scrub or preview audio for auditioning. When using this function, the ‘L’ button next to the volume control must be illuminated.

In the Insert tab, you can insert a plugin into the monitor path. This is used for tasks like correcting the characteristics of your monitor speakers. However, if you insert a plugin here that lowers the volume, or one that doesn’t pass audio at all, the meters may still appear to show a signal, but you will no longer hear any audio.