It globally works , but I think Iām faced to an issue with the bars width.
On my Primo (right page) I got this :
Bars numbered 1, 2, 3, 4 are not the same size. I searched in many places (Layout Options, Engrave Options, Notation Optionsā¦) but nothing could explain this behavior. Then I spent somte time on the forum to find an answer.
Then, I switch to the horizontal spacing in engrave mode, and it looks like this :
As you can see, there are many hooks for the bars 1, 2, 3, and only 1 hook for the fourthā¦
Then I think I found the root cause when I switch to the Galley View in Write mode :
Both music frames seems to synchronize their bar width. Upper two are for the Primo frame and lower two for Secondo frame.
Of course, I think I can manually modify bar width so they look equals , but I think that an option is currently missing to unlink bar width between two different music frame.
Or maybe, I donāt proccess correctly, or I miss the right option.
I have tried but I am not reproducing this problem. Weāll need to inspect a project to see what is happening. There must be something occupying all those beats.
A separate question: Why would you need pedal indications in both parts?
Firstly, Iād like to thank you Mark for your response and your spent time.
The layout is particular to a piano duet with 2 separates flow of music: Master Frame (MA) for Seconda, and Master Frame (MI) for Prima. Then you have to affect the right instrument in each Master Frame, and finally put the Frame Jumps onto the right bars so that the page turns start at the same bar number on the next page.
In brief, left pages only show first instrument (Left Hand of a 4 hands) and right pages only show second instrument (Right Hand of a 4 hands). And both playerās part can be printed together.
I think that the spaces showed on the first part are occupied by the eights notes chords cluster of the second part : 9 clusters per bar corresponding to the 9 hooks in the engrave mode of the first part, and only 1 cluster for the 4th bar on the second part corresponding the one hook visible of the first part.
Thatās the reason why I think that the layout of the 2 separated Master Frames are still linked somewhere because bar widths that contains music on the second part disturb the display of the first part in its Master Page whereas the Master Pages have been unlinked.
For your separate question :
Of course thereās only one sustain pedal per piano , but on the original score the pedal signs are displayed on both parts.
Iām surprised that Dorico appears to be spacing the music in the Primo frame according to the music in the Secondo frame. Could you attach the project itself here, to save me spending the time trying to reproduce this setup from scratch myself?
Just a guess: at the end of that system a red color is visible indicating that the system is overfilled, there is surely a number over 100% there. You may try to use a smaller note spacing value or a note spacing change.
To be more precise, the project is in fact a dual pianos duet (8 hands).
I import and set of pages template (4 mains) for the first piano, and another set (8 mains) for the second piano.
I first tried to send you an excerpt of the first pages so I tried to shorten the project, but in that case, when I removed manual horizontal, all bars were equally spaced !
So, I reopen the complete project and the problem was back again.
This is the complete unfinished project, this version use Master Page (MA) and Master Page (MI) for each piano.
I try to unlinked Master Frames of the second piano too ?
The version below use 4 separates Master Page for each part (MA, MI, MM & MN). Ouverture de TannhƤuser.dorico (2.4 MB)
Same problem.
Iām please because you are surprised, and I think I probably missed something.
Iāll probably change the notes spaces in Layout Option to get systems indicator back to a green status, but Iām in doubt that could interfer with barās widths.
Well, I am still unable to explain all those extra beat handles in the Primo in those bars. I see they are dependent on the notes in the Secondo, but other than deleting those notes I have not found any way of restoring normal beat handles in the Primo.
Hello Daniel, when you answered, I was sure your were the man for my problem.
And when you said you were surprised, I was confident that I missed something and the solution was nearā¦
Thanks for your time.
Iāll continue to try some other ways and Iāll post if I find the solution.
I continued to investigate on my problem, and I definetively think thatās a Doricoās issue.
To remember, the problem can be identified on measures [34-37] of 2nd Piano, Prima part, where measures widths are not equals.
Iāve done those steps :
I suppressed measure #82. I notice that measure #82 contains Cue of part āSecondaā. Maybe thatās the link element to part Secondaā¦ But I do not understand why it affects measures before #82.
Measures [34-37] are now equals and Engrave mode show only 1 hook in horizontal spacing mode. (Now it looks like the way it should be).
I undo (Ctrl-Z) to make measure #82 reappear. Measures [34-37] are still equals.
I switch to Write mode Galley view.
I go back to Engrave mode.
Measures [34-37] widths are not equals again!
To sum-up, measure #82 seems to be the root cause of the problem of layout of measures [34-37] of part Prima of 2nd piano.
I have pounded on this project for another 2 hours, and I have solved the spacing problem several times by deleting and redoing different things. But I have not been able to narrow down the problem to one particular object. The cues at Letter E are one thing, but also the independent meters.
This score was obviously a ton of work, and very nicely done. But there are several invisible things that are messy. First, at the beginning there is a matching independent meter in the 2nd piano, RH, upper staff. And when I delete that meter, the staff does not take on the global meter! I was unable to fix this by any means, even deleting all of the music, all the rest of the bars, and the remaining meters!
I donāt know how you got into this situation, but for this project I recommend adding a new 2nd piano Prima instrument, copying all the music into it, remaking the independent meter changes at Letter D, and deleting this rogue instrument entirely.
When you use independent meters, keep in mind the global meter, which in this case does not change from 3/4 until Letter E. Avoid putting independent meters all over the place and let the global meter operate wherever possible.
I donāt know how you managed to number the bars one off from the system track, but it shouldnāt be necessary to mess with this. A meter like 3/4,1 automatically correctly numbers the pickup bar 0.
Sidenote: Please do not say āmeasure barā. Both āmeasureā and ābarā mean the same thing. Some Americans say āmeasure barā to mean barline, which is a pet peeve of mine.
I will follow your recommandations and try to make a cleaner staff.
I narrowed the problem to the lonely Cue of 2nd piano at measure #82 of Prima part.
If I remove it (the Cue on both staves) then change to Write mode Galley view. And when I go back to Page view or Engrave mode, the space problem disappears.
It seems that you need to switch to Write mode & Galley view to trigger spacing widths computation.
Then if I insert again a Cue of 2nd piano Seconda into the Prima part, the spaces problem reappears.
I created a new simple demo project for Piano duet. Issue.dorico (488.4 KB)
2 pianos for 2 hands, with duet template configuration, i.e. Unlinked Master frames into ā1er Pianoā layout. No meter changes (3/4 till the end). No hidden item.
If I insert cues of the Left Hand into the Right Hand part at bars [31-33], then bar width problems appears (bar 15, slightly bar 3 & bar 5).
, but I think Iām faced to an issue with the bars width. 
when I switch to the Galley View in Write mode :
, but I think that an option is currently missing to unlink bar width between two different music frame.
, but on the original score the pedal signs are displayed on both parts.
