Issue with rehearsal marks (bar numbers)

[rjunchaya]

I have an issue with rehearsal marks (bar numbers) in one player in one flow which I cannot solve.

I’m working on a project where the composer has used different marks per movement (letters, numbers, bar numbers). The last (fourth) movement/flow has bar numbers as rehearsal marks. In the score and every other instrument there is no problem with showing them, but just for the solo viola bar numbers are not shown in this last flow. If I change the marks to letters or numbers they look fine, but not as bar numbers. Here are pics form the score and the solo viola part:

The file was originally imported from Finale via XML, but that was the first flow only, everything else was created in Dorico. Any ideas?

[Zalde]

Are there local time signatures in the Viola part in the last flow? There is a long standing issue that Dorico can’t display bar number rehearsal marks for parts that have local time signatures.

Blank rehearsal marks

Greg, the issue is with the local time signatures you’ve used from bar 256 in various instruments to produce 3/4 beat grouping within your 6/8 time signature. Unfortunately the presence of local time signatures causes Dorico to get confused about where it should get its bar numbers from for the rehearsal marks (it’s obviously not ideal, because as you can see it’s still able to draw the bar numbers OK!). This is something that we need to resolve. For the time being, I’d advise against using loc…

If there are, and they were created inadvertedly, you can delete them and the rehearsal marks should reappear. If you do need local time signatures, you’d have to look at a workaround.

[rjunchaya]

Thanks for the reply. AFAIR there are no independent TS but I’ll check it again carefully. Let’s see

[Zalde]

If you can’t locate it, you’ll probably get a solution if you upload the project file here, if that’s possible. If you create a copy you can delete everything except for the Viola player in that one flow.

[rjunchaya]

You were right, there was one bar where a 2/4 in the viola goes against the 6/8 of the orchestra. When I delete the TS the rehearsal marks show correctly. So, according to the post you quoted there is no solution. I’ll need to put a fake TS and use hidden duplets to solve my issue. Thank you very much, you’ve been very helpful. One more thing to add to my list of Dorico bugs

[Zalde]

Yeah I am not very well versed in polymeter in Dorico but I had to do it recently. Indeed I chose the fake time sig with hidden tuplets method because of this issue.

Another option could be to change the rehearsal mark sequence to Numbers in the properties panel and then enter the actual bar number in the Index. Since you only have to do it for one player, that might be quicker depending on how many rehearsal marks you have. The upside of that method is you can leave the time sigs intact.

[benwiggy]

@rjunchaya

the composer has used different marks per movement (letters, numbers, bar numbers).

Does it serve any useful purpose?

Most major publishers would just say “that’s not our house style” and do it all one way.