Hi,
I have an issue with repeat bars, and I did not find it in a previous topic. I joined both a picture and a project. There is an unwanted additional barline at bar 33, as well as an additional space at the beginning of bar 15. The two issues might be correlated.
I remarked that adding music in bar 33 made the additional barline disappear.
Needless to say, I haven’t managed to find the source of the problem yet, despite having played around with adding and suppressing bars, changing the type of barline, changing the voices and the start/end voice option, and searching for a hidden item that might cause the problem.
A similar problem has been mentioned two years ago, but it occurred with a time signature and the issue seems still unresolved: Strange Spacing Between Repeated Barlines
Thanks for your help!
Aide_barres_de_reprise.dorico (646.5 KB)
I have pounded on this file for several minutes and here’s what I find:
- The extra space does not appear in Galley View. It seems to be due to a phantom key signature ( 2♭)
- I began deleting things before and after bar 33 to cut it down to a minimal case, and noticed that the marimba staves disappear from the beginning to the first entrance, regardless of the staff visibility setting. I eventually discovered that this is because all 3 of these instruments are held by one player. I tried moving the instruments to 3 separate players and that solved the spacing problem without losing any of the music.
Also, taking the file as it is, if I shorten the tam-tam note in bar 32 to a half note or less (or lengthen it so it ties into bar 33), the unwanted space disappears! I have little experience with multiple percussion instruments in one ‘player’ in Dorico. I don’t see any problem with the separate-player setup since this entire “score” seems to be a part for one person.
If you do not allow for instrument changes, the problems disappear. But why it is like that, I don’t know.
EDIT:
In both cases, shortening the TamTam note to a half note results in the problems disappearing, too. It seems like Dorico is confused, because it starts at the tamtam, goes to the marimba during a held tamtam note, and after the marimba has to go back to the still held tamtam note… this is clearly at the border of the automated instrument-change function. I would refer to manual staff-visibility here.
Ah, of course, thanks, klafkid – The way the feature of multiple instruments for one player is intended to be used is: You write music for only one instrument at a time, and Dorico handles the instrument switching notation automatically. Music for a percussionist playing multiple instruments at once should not use this feature, but just include all the desired instruments in the part.
I’m having a similar issue. Some parts have independent repeats and perhaps this is the cause?
Can’t seem to figure out how to solve it in this case…
We’d need to see the project itself, or at least this affected chunk. I suspect you’re right, and that somehow the independent time signatures will be responsible for the separation of the repeat barline from the normal barline.
