It will be amazing if we have show blocks

Hi! I’m working on my project here and it will be awesome if we have something like blocks inside a show. So I can organize my drop D songs, my acoustic songs, etc..

Hope we have it soon!

What are “blocks inside a show”? Do you mean that some 5 songs you played and then you have a pause for talking with audience or go to intermission? If so, then change the action to “Stop” for the song after you wish to make pause.

Or you can manage setlists as blocks and before you go to the intermission, jou load next setlist.

Something like this:

Block A: Songs 1, 2, and 3
Block B: Songs 4, 5, and 6
Block C: Songs 7, 8, and 9

Set 01: Block A → Block B → Block C
Set 02: Block B → Block A → Block C

Structurally, it would look like this:

SET 01

  • Block A

    • Song 1

    • Song 2

    • Song 3

  • Block B

    • Song 4

    • Song 5

    • Song 6

  • Block C

    • Song 7

    • Song 8

    • Song 9

Why would this be useful?

It would allow us to keep the same song sequences within a large setlist while easily rearranging complete sections.

For example, during rehearsal you might think:

“Hmm, let’s put the slower section at the beginning.”

Instead of moving each song individually, you would simply move the entire block.

It would also be useful to have an option to play a block and automatically pause after its final song.

Managing a setlist as separate blocks or sets is not very efficient during a live performance. After every four or five songs, someone may need to go back to the computer and manually select or change the next section.

With movable song blocks inside a single setlist, the entire show could be organized more quickly while still keeping predefined song sequences together.

Okay, I understood your need. But… After you get the spark " let’s put the slower section at the beginning", you open Setlist window, create new setlist and drag&drop slow songs to it (on very right list) and do your rehearsal. Without any additional option the playback will stop after the final song in setlist.

If you need blocks in rehearsal, I’m sure Setlist is enough. The only inconvenience for you (as I understood) is that you should add to setlist songs one by one. Anyway after each block you should start next block by pressing Spacebar or mouseclick. It’s almost the same as if you select next setlist for rehearsal.

Yeah, but select and drag multiple would be nice feature in Setlist. I’m sure it would help you quickly add all your slow songs and drag to new setlist.

For live performance it is enough to have one setlist (for all sucessful gig performers), you just set action to Stop or Next Song (w/o starting it) to all songs after which you want to pause. Anyway someone should press Spacebar or initiate playback by pressing something on MIDI controller.

After you get your blocks, someone will ask to separate songs in each block. Anyway you are asking for multilevel structure and I guess it isn’t that easy to implement multistructural list like headers and subheaders in Word processors.

That’s put me in my place :joy::joy:

As a “less successful gig performer” I don’t always use ordered sets and will read the room. :grinning_face:

Being able to group songs by some tag like “slow”, “rock” etc would be quite helpful. Vitors idea would achieve that so it gets my vote for “would be nice, but I can wait”.

Hard to imagine how it would fit into the already crowded real estate though.

I have changed the order of the next songs while the current song is ending or starting. But it was okay while not playing any instrument, just sing. Perhaps predefined blocks would provide more flexibility, convenience. But then if you read the room, can you predict that the Block A will be okay? Or you suppose to make 3 blocks A with the same songs but in different order? This will cause a lot of confusion.

Not saying I would play all the block, just a method of finding songs that are related by type. Might also help in building the basic set.

When I played corporate with a band our songs were in blocks of 3 or 4 - band leader called out the first song in the block and we knew what the next couple of songs would be and we could rattle them off. Chat happened between blocks, worked well.

There’s a germ of an idea here that could be of benefit to some.

Yep.

It doesn’t necessarily need to stop when the block finishes. The main idea is simply to provide a better way to organize the songs.

I don’t think the implementation would require that much work, since the songs are already structured in the database. It would mainly involve creating a new relationship between songs, blocks, and setlists.

The biggest challenge would probably be designing a clean and intuitive GUI.

Exactly. Not just designing, it is also adding “niche” features which clutter the useer interface.

Just an idea: what if (in the Setlist Editor) you could drag one Song onto another, it would ask you if you want to append? Then you can create Songs as “blocks”.

It’s a good option.

It could solve the request, as long as there’s something indicating that the blocks are linked—such as a unique name or ID for each block.

I’m already feeling the update hahaha just kidding

If you are that far in allowing such innovations, then better would be - multiselect + button “new block”. And if so, then multiselect + drag to setlist. @musicullum, please! :slight_smile:

But how would you show that songs are in block? Indent these songs from left margin with a thin (and dragable) header for them? Rightclick on header → unblock all or rightclick on song → remove from block?

Do you mean one block appears in many setlists?

I’ve generated some Idea in AI with whats in my mind!
Something like that

God. It will be perfect! hahahaha

Frankly speaking, I‘m finding AI‘s musings more confusing than clear. :woozy_face:

Maybe just the left bar make it more clean to understand

“Blocks” would just be Setlists. Sorry, I wrote “drag Song onto another” but meant to say “Drag Setlist onto another”. You may then name a setlist “BLOCK Slow” for identification or whatever. And yes, multi-selection would be good, see if we can add that to the middle column.