Jazz articulations in Garritan JABB

Dorico
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I’m editing my old Garritan JABB-expression maps to make them play back falls, doits and other things that now are possible, but I have a minor problem:
I don’t understand how to make them only play on the notes with the appropriate symbol. (e.g. fall, doit etc)
What I’ve understand they should be added as add-ons in the Expression map, since they must play regardless if the the trumpet is open or muted.

So, adding a Fall as an add-on add-on with CC15=40 makes it play back correct, but how do I then kill it?
Adding CC15=0 in the Init patch has no effect. I’ve also tried creating a Playing technique with CC15=0 and place it on the next note, but then it won’t play the fall at all.

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You need to add it to the ‘switch off’ actions of the fall. So:
Switch On Actions: CC15=40
Switch Off Actions: CC15=0

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With the OFF-events set to CC15=0 in the Fall add-on it won’t play the fall at all. As soon as I remove the OFF-event it plays the fall.

The only thing I’ve done now is:
On-event: CC15=40
Off-event: CC15=0

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Those settings are working in my sample project, but I wonder if you are running into a bug we found in 3.5 which can happen if you have an articulation on a note position that is swung. If you try turning off swing then does it play back correctly? Could you also attach a cut down project that shows the problem?

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Paul,
This isn’t actually a project, just a couple of bars created from scratch in 3.5, trying to complete my expression map. So, no swing involved here.
JABB.dorico.zip (362 KB)

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Are there any updates on this issue yet?

Here’s a brief explanation of the problem:

  • Falls in JABB requires CC40 to sound and CC0 to stop.
  • When adding CC40 for the playback technique fall as an add-on ON-event the fall plays as expected.
  • When adding CC0 as the OFF-event on the same add-on the fall doesn’t play at all. (regardless of swing or no swing)
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I believe the problem with on events and off events both being played at the start of the note will be resolved in the forthcoming 3.5.10 update.

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Ahaa, good to know. Then I’ll wait for that before trying to make it work. :+1::+1:

Cheers.

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Hi,
Today I gave this another try with the same settings as before, ie:
On-event: CC15=40
Off-event: CC15=0

Unfortunately the same problem still remains:
When adding the on/off events as mentioned above it doesn’t play the playing technique.
Adding only the on-event the playing technique plays correctly but it won’t get terminated.

My Dorico version is 3.5.10.1045 (Windows)

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@dspreadbury, Today I tried this on my new MacBook Pro (Big Sur) and it works perfect., but I still can’t get it to work on my Windows computer.

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I opened the file you posted last May. You have Playback Options/Timing/Note Durations/Default notes set to 100%. I’m guessing JABB doesn’t think there’s time for a fall or something, because when I change that to 95% your file plays back correctly with the fall.

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@FredGUnn, ahaaaaa, I’ll look at that when I get back to my studio later this week. Thanks for looking into this! :slight_smile:

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I think it might be related to this bug I found. Setting 100% note duration doesn’t sort the on and off events properly when events are on the same tick. (I’m also on Windows.) Perhaps this extends to playback technique keyswitches, too?

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Thanks @JesterMusician & @FredGUnn, finally it works!
Setting the default note value to 95% on the Mac and 94% on my PC.

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