Hi everyone,
I’m still trying to understand this function well; this is what I’ve tried today:
I exported an audio mixdown of all three audio tracks (stereo) and relative FX tracks (stereo) of a test project (six tracks in total) first as a single mixdown track then using multiple export with “Master/Group/Sends” option but while if I compare the two Stereo Out mixes they have the same exact level if I check the sum level of the three exported audio tracks it’s exceeding 0dB, as shown in the screenshot (the two purple tracks are Stereo Out mixes, routed to a couple of different cue channels) the three tracks on the right are are audio export with “Master/Group/Sends” option..
Trying to do a long story short:
What’s the correct use for job queues? According to a Dom Sigalas video I expected it was to keep the chance of opening old projects even if some plugin has become obsolete after a period of time…
Thank you for helping me to understand!
Art
Hi, @arfo1962
Not sure that I got the issue. What I see is that the two strips on the left have a Cue send defined, so the Control Room is involved, and the three ones immediatly on the right are routed to the last right track, as a group, with apparently no inserts or sends involved, which means that maybe there is a level issue, something like the Pre Gain one. What I’m wondering about, though, is how the two first strips are related to the next three ones…
Normally it’s the case (I have always retrieved job queues already defined in the Export Audio Mixdown in a previous session). This said, I don’t remember having stumbled on an eventual non functional VSTi/plug-in.
What I humbly understood about it is that a job queue allows us to define different sets of tracks within a user defined range and export them individually, this, with the different settings that could be defined in the Export Audio Mixdown window.
After this, I always had problems with the way the whole thing is implemented :
- AFAIK, we can neither reorder the job positions in the queue list, nor start a defined job individually.
- The removal of a given job is destructive : Ctrl+Z is of no help, in this case…
- Job queue presets would be useful (much more than the format ones, IMO), as a workaround for my previous point.
So basically, and almost each time, I delete everything in the jobs list before doing a new export, this, to avoid any wrongly defined setting that could be well hidden, especially if I have more than 20 tracks in the involved project. But I probably haven’t really got all the aspects of the EAM window…
Hi @cubic13,
thank you very much for answering! In the meanwhile I maybe cleared a bit more my understanding about the whole topic and I’ll try to explain better my doubts:
I expected, according to what I understood in Dom’s video, using job to queues to get a number of tracks that I could reopen as they are to have an identical copy of the original project, in case some plugin has become no more available due to upgrades and so on
BUT
when I wrote I still was trying to guess which tracks - among different kind of possible export - could give me this result; I finally came to this (showed in the attached picture): if I reload all Groups and FX exported tracks, the only thing missing to have an identical final level is Master Bus Insert plugins (Waves L1+ Ultra Maximiser in my case).
I did separate tests and I saw that pregain (that I use for gain staging) is included in final export, as I think is logical, and routing mixes to cue send is only a kind of a trick I use to play all tracks together and checking the various levels.
If you look at the levels in the attached picture they are, finally!, exactly the same: mixes (original and exported), groups (original and exported), fx (original and exported); what I’m missing - at the moment - is how the get this with single tracks so to have more flexibility reopening the project and I’m planning to do some more test.
I agree with you about this: job queues preset would really be very helpful (you can define them for file formats and naming scheme, instead).
I still have to understand well how to use all the possibilities given in EAM, if I should discover something more I’ll write again in this thread.
Thanks again and all my best
@cubic13 I have to partially correct myself: when you export a track (blue) where you set a pregain, as dry (red) pregain is NOT included in export (in direct routing as well) so you have to reset it; in all other ways it is printed to the exported file