Justifying last systems of flows

Hello everybody,

I have a question about justifying the last system of a flow. I have 3 flows. I have in “note spacing” of Layout Options defined that “only justify final system in flow when more then” is set to 80%.
But Dorico justified the end of my first flow and the third flow. He didn’t touch my 2nd flow. Dorico always stretches the last system of flow 1 and 3, whatever setting I use in the note spacing. Other parts that end with notes instead of a rest in flow 1 and 3 are OK. So it seems that Dorico doesn’t care about note spacing and settings of justify when last measure(s) are rests ? Is this just the way Dorico works or am I doing something wrong here ?

Thanks everybody for your help,

Koen

What setting do you have for this Layout option?

(You may need to adjust this in each layout and/or flow.)

— Jim

This is not what I see

Can you show the system fullness indicator in Engrave mode of the last systems of flow 1 and 3?

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your help.

My setting there is 80% now.

As soon as I put a note in the last measure of flow 1, then the justifying rule is applied correctly. So it really likes like Dorico only applies the justifying rule when there are notes in the last measure.

Koen

I’d suggest unchecking that option completely.

Since you have multi-bar rests enabled, the last system will always justify if the last bar is empty.

Have tried this but no change when disabling the option

Koen

Hi Charles,

This can explain the beheaviour of the end of my 3rd flow. But my first flow does not end with a multimeasure rest…

Koen

It does, actually, even if it doesn’t look like!

What you can do is insert a chord symbol region in the last empty bar.

:rofl: Gotta love the math: 1 or more equals “multi”!

Hi Ton,

Thanks also for your help.

Here are the indicators for my 3 flows :

Flow 1

Flow 2

Flow 3

But I understood why flow 3 has this beheaviour, it should be because of the multimeasure rest. However, I still don’t understand why I have the problem with flow 1.

Thanks again,

Koen

The fermata in flow 2 is breaking the multi-bar rest, that’s why.

In bar 95 of flow 1, select the rest, type Shift+Q, type reg in the popover, Enter.

Hi Charles,

OK, I didn’t know that Dorico threats the one bar rest also as a multimeasure bar. Doesn’t seem logic to me as musician/composer but I suppose that’s the difference between human and IT ;o)

Anyway, it sure does explain the beheaviour.

Many thanks for your help and explanation !

Koen

Yes ! That works for me.
What does the “reg” mean in this case ?

Thank you very much Charles.

Thanks everybody for your response and help.
I appreciate it !

Greetings from Belgium,

Koen

That’s what I was suggesting: by doing that you insert a Chord Symbol Region, which is a trick to make Dorico think there is something in a bar when there isn’t anything :slight_smile:
It breaks the multi-bar rest.

See the popover reference, top of page 33

OK, thanks Spielmann. I will have a look.

Kind regards,

Koen