Hi,
I want to make the project titles the same size on page 1 to 10. I do not like the smaller font on the following pages. How do I make it the same size as the title page? I searched this forum for answers and watched videos, but couldn’t find the answer. TIA
Welcome to the forum @bophead.
You need to edit the Page Template that the Layout is using.
You do this via Engrave mode:
Make sure you edit the Default page and not the First page.
If it’s a matter of enlarging the flow heading to match the first-page title, that’s not actually in the default page. You have to edit the flow heading itself.
I’m pretty sure the OP’s talking about the title that appears in the follow-on header. Editing the Default Page Template is the right move here; if it’s a single flow that’s continuing onto pages 2 and 3 then there won’t be a Flow Heading on pages 2 or 3.
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Hi, I am sorry to address this again. I have watched videos and read the manual, but haven’t found the answer yet. I am coming from Finale and I am trying this on my Win11 system. In Engrave, I was able to set the font in my token to what I wanted, but it doesn’t seem to take, my 2nd and 3rd page titles are still reduced. Is there a lock on the page that I missed. A week in with Dorico I have the note input down, making the finished sheet like I want it is where I am stuck. I am sorry for being a dunce, but I do need baby steps here. Please assume I don’t know anything because I don’t. TIA
And likewise, we can’t know exactly how things are working in your project by verbal descriptions. Please post a cut-down version of the project here. You can delete all the music if this is just about headings.
Gravy Waltz Stanley Turrentine Soul Shoutin’.dorico (1.3 MB)
Hi,
Attached is my first attempt at Dorico. I want the 2nd and 3rd page titles to be the same size as page 1. Thank you. I haven’t been able to figure it out. If you fix it, please let me know how you did it in baby steps. TIA
Thanks for the project! The first thing I notice is that all the pages have overrides, which show as a red triangle on the page icons in the right panel in Engrave mode. This happens when you change something on the page directly, and since an override freezes the page as it is, unfortunately it also prevents the page from changing with edits to the page template! So here’s what I did first:
- Select all the page icons and click the Remove Overrides button below
The next thing I see is that you’ve manually typed the title in the header frame. By default this will populate automatically with the title in Project Info, using a token that looks like {@projecttitle@}, so you don’t have to retype it. But no harm.
This is what you want larger, to match the first page, yes? I see the title is 20-point, so:
- Double-click the “Default” page template, double-click the header field to edit the text, select all the text, and make it 20-point
Of course now the text is too tall for the frame! So you want to:
- Select the header frame (by its edge) and in Properties increase Height to maybe 30pt
- Select the music frame (blue), and increase the distance from the top, to maybe 36pt
- Click the appropriate “Copy Page Layout” button (top center) to make the facing page match, and click Apply and Close (top right)
This solves your original question, and if you’re successful with these steps you can see how to alter other elements to your taste if you wish.
It’s a very different approach from Finale, (deliberately) much more like a page layout program. With these tools and the others we can easily control the formatting of a 100-page orchestral score and all the proper parts.
Let us know if any of the above went too fast, and any other questions you may have!
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P.S. 1. When you remove the page overrides, the redundant flow heading reappears by default. You can remove that without having to edit the page template:
- Library > Layout Options > Page Setup > Flows > Show flow headings → Never
P.S. 2. After making all these edits I discovered I was working on the Tenor saxophone part. If this project is going to be just that part, there’s no need to be concerned with the other 4 layouts in the project. You can delete them or ignore them.
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Hi
Thank you for your help. I got the first step OK. 2nd step, making the frame bigger. I grabbed the frame by the edge, one of the 3 green boxes. Sorry, but I could not find the properties to increase it to 30pt. Sorry to be such a dunce, I looked through the menus and couldn’t find it. Win11
The Properties panel is in the “lower zone”. Click the small chevron at the bottom center of the window or Ctrl+8 to show/hide it.
Of course we can resize frames by dragging, but I prefer to do it digitally.
Thank you so much for your help. Those collapse arrows have eluded me more than once. 
That fixed my title for page 2 and 3. I also want to have the name “tenor” on page 2 and 3. I thought if I put that on the flow Clt I page it would carry over, but it didn’t. Then I tried to insert text, and that didn’t work. How do I get the name “tenor” to show on page 2 and 3? The same for the bottom, where it is a copyright token, I want to put my website and the date.
You can type it in the header itself on the page template (since the title is also typed there).
But the “Dorico way” to do it is use a token. I notice you put “Tenor” in the Composer field in Project Info. So that would be {@projectcomposer@}. You can right-click while editing a text frame and choose from many tokens to insert (so we don’t have to remember them or spell them).
Hi,
I am sorry for being a dunce, but trying to put a composer token in has made the chart worse. I am on the Editing Page Template on the Default Full Score. When I insert the token for composer, it moves the title. Do I need to create a new text box to put the token in?
Yes, if you want the title in the center and Tenor in the corner opposite the page number, what you do is make a new text frame there and type either the string or the token in it. I think you have to do it individually on both facing pages, since they’re opposite.
I am still missing something. I can get things to work by moving the boxes around, but the texts are not consistent across the pages. Copyrights are on page 1 but the token is on page 3, same with composer. I am going to let this stew a little and come back and start over from the beginning. I want to know what I am doing so I can be consistent. The chart spacing is off as well now. Thank you for your help. There is headway.
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Hi, I spent about 3 hours last night watching videos and reading on the tokens. I still do not understand what I am doing wrong. In Project info I have the info in that I need. I made tokens for all the information, but the info is still wonky. One thing I might not have been doing is hitting Ctl+Enter when I typed in the tokens. Why aren’t the tokens being converted to the info? I have attached the latest update, looks worse than the original. Thank you for your time.
Gravy Waltz Stanley Turrentine Soul Shoutin’ e1.dorico (1.4 MB)
Glad you’re still on it. I am away from my Dorico computer all day today, and can come back to this tomorrow, unless someone else wants to chime in …
I’d like to help, but I’m not really sure what outcome you want… (TBH your page templates look all over the place - no judgement!)
Hi Janus, Thank you for the help. On all the pages, I want title, tenor and the copyright. I made a token for composer that says “Tenor” on the project info page. On the first page I want the artist and the album, first page only. I made tokens for Artist and Publisher for that. As you can see they do not act like I think they should. I have all the info in the Default page, but it doesn’t translate to the finish copy. This is my first stab at Dorico, so any help is appreciated.