Key Commands for 'Preset Previous'/Preset Next' select wrong Vstpresets

[NotCold]

OK, I got you.

The presets that appear under the top ‘Preset Management’ tab, are the same that you browse with Halion Sonics internal Preset Management at the right side.

I wrote about this ‘Phenomenon’ that Programs are ‘Jumping’ when using the Key Commands shared in another thread.

MY SOLUTION:

ALWAYS first open the ‘Preset Browser’ (also with Key Command) and THEN browse/use Presets with ‘Next/Previous’ Key Commands. Then the preset selection will not jump around. It is straightforward.

Look at my Key Commands setup No. 1 at Key Commands for 'Preset Previous'/Preset Next' select wrong Vstpresets - #16 by NotCold

[NotCold]

@NotCold

Look at my Key Commands setup No. 2

Actually, you should use the KeyCommands under No. 1 above, NOT the No. 2 as the latter is for Track Presets browsing.

[Aleque]

I’d appreciate it, if you could rephrase what you said with a bit more clarity and explanation.

What exactly should I do to go back and forth between presets without having Halion switch instruments? And without having to resort to manual clicking, double clicking or using arrow keys + enter.

Also, why does it take longer to load a preset if I use the arrow buttons on the VST…

…as opposed to use arrow key keys + enter or double click presets in the Media panel?

Update: I tried every other Steinberg (stand-alone) VST. Padshop, Retrologue, The Grand, Backbone and even Groove Agent. These hotkeys…

…work without any problem. I can go back and forth between presets using these hotkeys and they load fast.

The only problem is Halion:

So let’s say I load Dark Planet in Halion and pick a first preset belonging to Dark Planet. Then I press Next (Preset) hotkey. It does not take the next Dark Planet preset but it picks a next preset in the ALL section:

So, I don’t know if I am overthinking this, but it would have been nice if I could browse presets using single keys. Not taking my mouse cursor to the next preset and double clicking, not pressing Down and Enter. But one single key. That way I could easily browse between presets in a particular library like Dark Planet, and then I could bind those single hotkeys to any USB device (a game controller, Elgato Streamdeck, a Tourbox, etc.) without me having to go back and forth between my stationary MIDI Keyboard and my PC. I hope this makes sense.

Also, I appreciate you trying to help, but a couple of screenshots would be nice. You call them ‘Preset Management’ and ‘Preset Browser’ - I don’t have anything to connect those words to. Cubase and Halion interface is a jungle. That is why I need something visual to refer to.

[m.c]

@Aleque

That way I could easily browse between presets in a particular library like Dark Planet, and then I could bind those single hotkeys to any USB device

I think that the most straight forward workaround, is to completely ignore the browser section of Halion, and use the generic browser instead, by clicking on the program name at the top of the window, or using the shortcut Preset→Open/Close Browser.
Actually this is what I personally do, not just for Halion, but for every vst I have (with vstPresets when they are of a third-party vst). This way, I never have to worry about the internal browsers, midi learning their system, or adding shortcuts, or combinations with mouse movements etc.

When we open the “generic” browser, we can select categories, types, etc. This way even when we close this browser, when using the Preset→Previous/Next shortcuts, the navigation will be performed inside the results of our selection, be it a particular library or whatever other filters we have given.

In this screenshot, I have opened the generic browser, selected Flux and Bass. We can see the results at the right side. If we close the window, the Preset→Previous/Next will properly navigate through the results. What’s even cooler is that we can actually completely close the vst window, and these shortcuts will still work as expected.