I’m trying to drag the second large square so it is in the same place as the first small square. If I try selecting it, it immediately deselects, and it won’t let me drag it either.
What happens if you delete it?
Jesper
I can’t delete it since it won’t let me select it.
When I click on it or drag the mouse to do a box select, it will turn orange for, like, a millisecond and then instantly turn blue again.
Does it represent a dynamic set in the notation panel?
It does, but it’s not playing back correctly, so I want to change it manually.
This seems to happen anywhere that I have gradual dynamics written into the score. The key editor is pretty much unusable for dynamics with this problem.
it might be an idea to post a test project showing what you’re finding. If I simply create the same sort of things as you – i.e two hairpins following on from each other, it works fine. I can easily move the second large square so it aligns with the first small one.
I’ve experienced the same problem many times and never found a workable solution…
ChopinMarch.dorico (2.6 MB)
it works perfectly well on staves which are not divisi. With your divisi string staves, I’m often not able to select any of the dynamic points in the key editor. For instance you have two viola staves in the score but 6 voices altogether and what I suspect is happening is you have not selected or simply cannot select or the relevant voice for editing. There are still some limitations in the key editor in this respect with divisi but for a definitive answer, someone better versed in such complications should chip in-- I simply don’t write like this.
Maybe it’s working on your machine for non divisi staves, but it is not working on mine.
You didn’t state where in the piece this problem occurs, but I found either it or another one a lot like it.
In Viola Solo, a hairpin (crescendo) begins in bar 69, the last bar in the system, followed by another hairpin (crescendo) at the beginning of bar 70, the first bar in the next system. It is not clear from the Page view layout if this is one continuous hairpin, or two separate ones in (immediate) succession. In Galley view, however, it becomes clear that they are two separate hairpins. Dorico interprets hairpins in (immediate) succession (written as < < ), without intervening fixed-point dynamics (written as < f < ff or < f … p < f ), as returning the volume (MIDI value) at the start of the second hairpin to the same volume as that at the start of the first hairpin. @Derrek’s question is thus applicable.
Along the way, I also found in Violin 1, second staff, and straddling the barline between bars 23 and 24, a short little decrescendo hairpin whose attachment points indicate that it spans all of bar 23. This is in conflict with the much longer hairpin in bar 23, which has the same attachment points.
The Proofreading tool flagged 55 things, 45 of which have to do with dynamic issues. It caught the Violin 1 issue, bar 23, but did not recognize the successive hairpins in the Viola Solo part, bars 69 and 70, as being an issue because this is the intended behavior for a sequence of repeating hairpins.
I can’t speak to why there are extra Viola tracks in the Player or how they got there, but I suspect they are not helping matters.
This issue exists since my first day of using Dorico, across Mac and Windows, and of course it has not been improved at all. There is a workaround.
- Add a point (using line tool) a little bit after the point you desired to select.
- Undo it using cmd/ctrl-Z.
- Now you can select the point.