Thanks, on behalf of all the others with the same issue.
I reckon you should raise a thread in the issue forum. You use case makes a clear point as to why it should open clips and centre the cursor when (when AutoScroll is on). Sometimes I work like that too when I’m working on a score because I need to quickly see the details of different midi parts.
But aside from that, even in normal double-click use I think it should centre on the cursor (unless its outside the boundary of the part). and for the list editor, centre horizontally too!
Mike.
It’s not as much of a problem if you have the music broken into smaller clips. But lots of times (especially in an orchestral setting) you’ve got a clip which is 16 measures long. Yeah, it’s annoying.
Mahlon
Can I just link to this thread from the Issue’s forum? Or can a mod move it or something like that?
I would love to raise the issue again in a more relevant arena, but I think I’ve spent all my complaining energy debating the finer points with enjneer.
The thing to do is to raise an issue thread and state the problem clearly along with your Use Case. This gives Steinberg a good understanding of the problem and how it effects you and Cubase - and therefore hopefully a good reason to consider correcting it. Then link to this thread for the discussion. If you cross link then people viewing this thread will pop over to the issue thread and add extra support and their own use cases.
Mike.
Rappy
I don’t have a solution for you but will report that my Key Editor or Sample Editor always opens with the cursor visible. The editors open at the last zoom level. It doesn’t matter the level of zoom, the editor opens with the cursor more or less centered. It doesn’t matter if F/Follow is ON or OFF.
To clarify what I’m doing. In the Project window I click in the timeline to set the Song Postion. Now, any part I open that is under the song position will open with the cursor visible. If I open a part elsewhere in the song outside of the immediate view, the part view will open at the beginning of the part. If I’m understanding you, this is exactly how you want it to behave. (?)
I gave a quick look in my Preferences, tested a few settings but nothing stood out. I’m using 7.5.3 with Mac OS 10.8.5.
NZR
Ok, now try this. Find a clip that is longer than the width of the Project/ Arrange window view you have. Click a different clip so that you are not currently Editing the long clip. Now try clicking in the timeline, as you have just said. Then click the really long clip whose start position is off the screen and tell me where it opens in the Edit window.
I get the same results as you with smaller clips that fit inside the zoom of the project window, but I am doing orchestral stuff and the clips are often very long so the start position is rarely in view. Any time I click first the timeline, then one of these longer clips it summons the clip to the Editor window at it’s start position - the source of my aggravation.
Edit: Actually scrap the bit where I said mine works like yours does. I thought it was, but that was because the zoom level of the Editor was such that it was still large enough to show both the start position AND the cursor, so obviously the cursor was in view. If I choose a clip that fits in the Project window zoom level but doesn’t in the Editor window zoom level, then I lose the cursor - which makes sense but still indicates a problem with the coding.
Anyway I will submit an Issue, like was suggested.
Rappy
I have a project open with some long clips and short ones as well. Using the scenario you describe, the MIDI and Sample Editor still open with the cursor in view.
That was a 7 or so minute tune with a few tracks running top to bottom.
I also opened an orchestral piece that’s over an hour. The cursor still works correctly.
Just because it works okay on my box doesn’t mean it’s not a coding thing though. I hope they work it out.
NZR
The issue here I think is triggered by whether the Key Editor is already open or not. Here’s what I get:
OK - With Key Editor closed - double click always centres on the cursor or the start if beyond the boundary
NOT OK - With Key Editor open - double click always shows start of the midi, ignoring the cursor position and AutoScroll
This is inconsistent and if by design then it makes no sense to me.
Mike.
Rappy
The problem hinges on the fact that you want to have the Key Editor open in the lower half of the screen and select other parts with a single click. And you don’t want focus on the Key Editor since it covers more of the Project Window than you’d like.
Right now at least, it’s just not going to work that way. It’s not so much a coding problem or error as it is the way the program works.
Like GargoyleStudio pointed out, the problem is in not closing the editor. But I will disagree with Gargoyle in that it’s inconsistent and makes no sense.
While not exactly what you want, there is a way. If you’ll hit and double click the next part, it will open with the cursor where you want. The down side is you’re losing that small piece of Project Window real estate. That doen’t seem like a huge trade off compared to having the Position show up like you want.
Here’s why it makes sense to me. Long ago in Cubase, when there was only one level of Undo, not an Edit history, it worked this way: you edited in the Key Editor and if you liked what you did you pressed to keep the changes, if you didn’t like the changes you hit undo-ing all the changes you’d made. (I wish it still worked like that in addition to the History)
Closing the Editor is still the way the program organizes the (MIDI history. It has to work that way.
Something I’ve used working with orchestral things is the In-Place Editor. It’s designed to accomodate your method of working-editing MIDI while keeping the Project in view.
NZR
Just to clarify - I say inconsistent because if I double click on a part then I can’t tell where the cursor is going to go when the editor appears… That’s because if the editor is closed then it opens at the cursor point. But if my editor is behind another window (e.g. the project window) but still open then it appears and shows the start. I’d just like it to open showing the cursor position in both scenarios.
Mike.
I hadn’t thought to check what happens when the window is actually closed.
Anyway, here is the Issue topic I raised. Please add your support if this affects you.