Laissez vibrer from manual

Sorry, I can’t figure out from the online manual or any other reasonable means how to insert the laissez vibrer tie-like curves.

For future reference, the manual talks about the “lower zone toolbar.” That’s that thing that pops open if I use Cmd + 8 (or the ^ / v gadget on the bottom), right?

I do that but don’t see anything described in Hiding/Showing laissez vibrer ties … unless I’m blind and missing it, which is entirely possible.

Yes.

With a note selected:

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And you can assign it a shortcut, if you need it often. Preferences > Keycommands:

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asherber got it for me, but there is a peculiar situation that prevented me from seeing that.

I wanted to have the l.v. ties showing on three harp notes. When I look in the right place, nothing at all shows in the main box even though I have all three harp notes selected at once.

I tried deselecting and then selecting the top one. Voilà, the radio button for laissez vibrer shows up. I click it and the tie appears. I duplicated it on the bottom note.

However the middle note of the three-note chord just happens to be RED at the moment, flagged because I haven’t had it calculate pedal settings and that string needs to be “fixed” first. It does not allow me to put in the laissez vibrer tie.

Once I learned how to do pedal marking, including calculation, two days ago, I decided to forge ahead and just get in all the notes. (This is an 85-page score for nine players. At the rate I’m going it’ll take forever.) It’s easiest for me to calculate pedals in a single pass rather than fuss with them every measure or so.

It’s not worth worrying about odd l.v. ties at this point. At least now I know how to do it.

I can’t really call that a “bug” either because it wouldn’t happen if I’d calculated the pedal settings at that point. Except for the fact that the two issues are unrelated, at least not in any obvious way.

Also, I’m assuming that the same pedal prevented me from seeing the content of that window when all three notes in the chord were selected.

Sorry to clutter this topic, but I said something wrong in my previous post. It was not because a note was red (uncalculated pedal setting) that prevented me from adding the l.v. tie. Apparently it was because I had too much selected, including something that wasn’t a note. I can add l.v.s one at a time, including to the red note. Or (I think) to all three at once if I’m absolutely careful to select nothing but notes.

If you have Dorico 6, you might like this option (Preferences > Note Input and Editing):

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Yes, this is correct. By default, Dorico will only show the properties that the selected items have in common, so if you’ve selected something that isn’t a note, the l.v. property won’t display. (Unless you change the setting suggested by @charles_piano.)

You can always do Filter > Notes and Chords to make sure that you only have notes selected.

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By default, Dorico only shows properties that are common to all selected objects. So if (for example) your selection includes both notes and slurs, you will see no properties for notes.

There are two routes to handle this. Either use the filter to narrow your selection, or set Preferences>Note Input…

The downside of this setting is that the properties section can get very big, because there are lots of properties!!

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(The additional downside is that you can change a property and wonder why it doesn’t affect all the objects you have selected – because not all of the selected objects have that property. For this reason, I much prefer to leave this set to “common properties”.)

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Thank you for that suggestion. Yes, I have Dorico 6(.1) and made that change at your recommendation.
It makes sense.

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I do like this “new” setting — for me it was a substancial improvement in Dorico 6 (it saves a lot of filtering!), but as you can see above, some excellent users prefer the old one! You’ll see over time which one you prefer :slight_smile:

OK. Well, there must be 10,000 things to deal with and I’m still in a fog.

I should read some background stuff to become more familiar with it at a conceptual level.

@Lynn_Newton
Adding to all the suggestions above, keep in mind that if you use Show all properties activated (which causes the visualized properties amount to grow considerably), you can always use the Properties Search… functionality Option(Alt)+8, which will act as a filter to show only what you are searching for:

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