I couldn’t find anything on this. Lanes appear to be playing or “leaking” modulation only from previous active lanes while I’m recording the new take.. NOT note information just the CC modulation from those takes.
I’m using an external instrument that is routing midi and audio to my Minimoog in the studio.
Is this a bug? Pretty new to cubase so I must be missing something.
If I’m cycling takes the mod wheel and pitch bend information will still be playing as I’m playing my next take. You can imagine how annoying that is. Pitch bend and modulation happening at random times while trying to take a solo or track a bass line. I tried EVERY combination of midi record mode. I think I have a clear idea of how they work coming from other DAWS. But maybe I’m missing something for controller messages.
Why would it only mute the notes and still let the midi cc stuff pass out through from previous active comp take?
I tried setting up a midi track and sent that to the external instrument setup track to see if regular midi tracks handled lanes different. same problem.
Workaround 1: The Solution for now is to hit mute key command after each round of cycle takes. The last cycle will be activated and selected (makes sense) so in order to ensure that the mod and pitch doesn’t play randomly during every pass of subsequent takes. I have to push my mute key command before starting another round of midi takes.
Update #2: Also not ideal - but slightly better. Because I monitor direct on my UAD interface I don’t need to use the software monitoring on the channel. This means I can mute the channel while recording takes. I still hear direct monitoring from my interface and whatever CC information that happens to be sitting in the previous recorded take doesn’t “leak” through because the track is muted, that stops those messages from being passed back out to the minimoog while I’m playing it.
Why would anyone want the mod info to still pass though when in stacked/replace/or overwrite mode doing midi takes? I can’t think of a use case. It makes sense for MERGE. so you can retrack just the control change information separately.
MIDI Recording Mode > Cycle MIDI Recording only is set to Stacked.
You record the 1st cycle (MIDI Notes, MIDI CC1 - Modulation, Pitch Bend).
→ All good.
While you are still in the Cycle mode, you record the 2nd cycle (MIDI Notes, MIDI CC1 - Modulation, Pitch Bend).
=> The MIDI CC1 - Modulation and Pitch Bend are playing back during the 2nd cycle, while MIDI Notes are muted.
Realizing that this problem stems from a much bigger problem in all midi lanes not muting previous lanes when recording a new track. I really hope Cubase team fixes this soon. But it looks like people have been asking for this basic functionality for over 5 years.
Happy to help clarify if someone on the Steinberg team wants to get it touch. And happy to learn a new approach/shift my thinking if there is a better way that I’m missing.
Is there another midi record setting somewhere I’m missing? Me and many others on this forum can’t seem to get this working. I’m curious what your setup is.
Let me rephrase the problem then. Previous lanes playing back while recording the next take. I was misinterpreting the outcome based on lack of experience in Cubase.
I think my original message in this thread is misleading. I’m a new cubase user and I was working through what the problem even was as I wrote it. Sorry for the confusion there. The issue became more clear the more I read and tried things. Perhaps it would be best to remove/retire this thread to draw proper attention to the other two more relevant ones I linked.
Yes, Stacked mode. Keep in mind I was sequencing an external synth and monitoring it direct through my UAD interface. It’s my first session in Cubase. But I soon realized it’s the same problem with all software instruments and midi lanes in general. It’s the same problem the other threads are talking about. Previously selected lane information (comped or last take) playing back while recording the next take. The reason the previous notes didn’t play back for me was because I was muting the track while recording to it. (I monitored the sound direct). The weird thing I noticed is while the track was muted the midi mod, pitchbend and aftertouch would still be sent out to my minimoog while I was playing it. Obviously that’s really distracting while trying to get a good take of a lead synth solo. Also, It’s possible I messed something up in the cubase external routing that caused this.
People have mentioned while using software instruments and midi lanes that they have to go and mute each clip (which is tedious if you’ve done a comp already) and then unmute everything again after to hear your comp again. Again, it’s been well documented in other threads. It’s the same problem. Or it at least stems from the same problem.
The key difference between your thread and the ones you linked to is Cycle recording.
When recording with Cycle (looping between the left and right locator) each take will automatically mute when the project cursor loops back around and the “Stacked” MIDI recording mode is selected.
None of the other threads mention Cycle.
I hear the previous take on the cycle record in stacked too. Mabye on the second cycle it mutes? That’s not very useful to me either. It’s ok. I’m moving on to reaper. It can be setup anyway you need it. I won’t be paying for Cubase at the end of the trial period. Too bad. I was really started to love a lot of things about Cubase!