Can you share what that problem was as it seems to be an overlooked missing clue here at the bottom of the chain for the start of things?
Hippo
From the LatencyMon screenshot, it looks like a whole lot of processes are problematic. Even the LatencyMon process itself - highest execution time 2.64 ms, on my system 0.099 ms.
(i9 12900K, AMD 6700XT, 64 gb RAM). Hopefully, the new machine will be fit for purpose.
For reference (only 3 mins, but I opened C13 with a fairly large project in that time):
@hippo - the computer stopped working in the small hours of the morning and went to the âRecoverâ screen. Not every day but almost every other day. Since the OS wipe and fresh install this has not yet happened - but that was only three days ago.
Update:
Thanks for all your suggestions - Unfortunately, they have not had much positive effect on my system⌠However I have found a solution that works on my system :
nVidia told me that they are aware of latency problems with their recent drivers and are âaddressingâ them. The new nVidia Studio Driver (551.86) helped a bit (but not all that much). I have tried some other suggested settings in the BIOS, Windows setting and nVidia Control Panel without much impact - although it is difficult to tell as LatencyMon gives quite different results each time it is run. However the nVidia driver has always showed 5-10 times worse results than anything else.
I recently found this very recent reddit page which is very helpful. Reddit - Dive into anything
See the âDPC Latency spike potential workaround(s)â near the bottom of the post.
The third suggestion had an enormous impact ! LatencyMon now mostly thinks that my system is suitable for real-time audio. The nVidia driver is no longer the worst offender. I can even run Cubase 13 playback with no dropouts, clicks or stutters with a buffer size of just 32 for the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Gen 4 !
- Disable Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling (HAGS) in Windows settings. May help with DPC Latency on some systems but impacts Series 40 (Lovelace) DLLS3 Frame Generation feature and AMDâs FSR3 Frame Generation feature
After running for 26 min - I get this from LatencyMon :
The above solution may or may not work for you âŚ
Now to state the obvious from my 3 week journey down the rabbit hole :-
I have noticed that audio latency problems have been around for a LONG time - and that most âsolutionsâ from Google searches are horribly out of date, or very specific and might work only for the personâs system, or just plain hogwash ! Many of them are exceedingly technical and not really understandable by lesser mortals!
I have also noticed that where people have gone so far as to show screenshots of changing specific Windows 11 settings or nVidia settings that they are also out of date and do not resemble the screens you see today on a fully updated system. This indicates (of course) that Microsost/nVidiA etc are "fixing stuff continuously - we hope.
So, beware !! When searching for solutions try to restrict the results to the last few months in any search if you can!
Thanks again for all who tried to help !
Regards
Andy
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Awesome! Good job finding that. I am curious where is that setting because Iâve never heard of it and canât find it here.
(nevermind, I just found it).
edit:
BTW, I have that setting, it is enabled but I donât have any issue with my DAW or latency here.
But only if your system supports it - I have an AMD 6700 XT with up to date drivers, an i9 12900 and an up to date Windows 10, but the HAGS option doesnât appear in my settings, even with a search.
Thanks so much @Hooby2
Maybe this link will help ?
How to Enable Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling in Windows 10 and 11 (howtogeek.com)
I think you misunderstood. This setting is only available if your graphics card supports it.
My anti-tracking setting wonât allow me to view how-to-geek, but I assume it directs me to Windows Settings\Display\Graphics Settings. This is how it looks on my system:
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If you look carefully at the screenshot I provided, youâll see that I did indeed go to Settings>System>Display>Graphics Settings, which is the window in the screenshot, and youâll see that there is no such option.
Hmmm, I am also on Windows 10, and I canât see this function, V 22H2, Built 19045.4170âŚany ideas why I canât see the function?
Cheers!
Because your graphics card does not support this function.
I see, cheers!
I said this two days ago!
I would like to add my extra 2 cents to this thread.
I previously mentioned I didnât have DPC latency problems (as good as could be for a laptop I guess), I still get occasional spikes on ACPI.sys but that is not the point now.
I had thought everything was good with the setting Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling (HAGS), but I noticed that my system would start acting like crap after using it for a while (just regular use, not DAW).
The symptoms was computer getting generally sluggish after using it for a while, but after a reboot things were good.
So I was thinking it was maybe windows Power settings and I was playing with those for a while and if I would go from High Performance to Balanced (for example) symptoms would get much worse.
This computer is a Asus laptop which has 2 gpuâs, one Nvidia for regular use and an Intel one just for the display(s).
After endless trial and error or power settings, drivers, optimizations I remembered this setting âHardware-accelerated GPU schedulingâ in Windows 11. So anyways I turned this off and it fixed those problems, and no performance losses.
I guess some kind of a conflict between the 2 GPUs and windows power settings?
cheers. have a good day.