Having layout issues . First, in the setup Mode my percussion instruments are in this order:
Mallet Percussion
Percussion 1
Percussion 2
Timpani
But, when I go to any other Mode the score shows up in this order:
Why is the order different between Setup Mode and Write or Engrave Mode?
Secondly, all of a sudden some of the pages of my score are “Scrunched up” and only take up half a page while other pages are spaced out correctly covering the full page?
Where are you seeing this order in Setup mode: in the Players panel on the left, in the Layouts panel on the right, or in the music area in the middle?
By default, the order of instruments in the music in any layout follows the player order (left panel in Setup mode).
However you can also set a custom order for each layout in Layout Options.
If you’re not sure, the best way to solve the issue is to share your Dorico project file here on the forum.
Lillie,
I only see the order mixed up like this in the center music section. Things are listed in the correct order in the Player panel and the Layout panel.
Can these layout options be set to be the same globally for the whole score or do you think I need to just go itno the pages that are cramped up and set each page individually?
Unfortunately however you describe the problem, any suggestions we make are likely to be (informed) guesses. If you can post the project then you will get definitive answers, and likely learn a lot about handling layouts with Dorico.
Yes, what you set in Layout Options gets applied throughout the selected layouts.
If you’re seeing incorrect player orders in the music, that suggests a custom player order is set for the layout, so follow the 2nd link I gave you earlier for more info.
That did it. Somehow things got changed under Layout Options >Players. This made the music score in the center different than the order in the panels on either side. Go it right now. Thank you so much for your help from a many decade Finale user.
Gary
My guess is that page 6 is just over the justification threshold setting and page 7 is just under it. The small difference in height is made by the rehearsal mark 69.
If that guess is right, you can reduce the first percentage setting in order to include page 7 in justification. Make sense?
(But if I’m wrong, as Janus says, a project will make it all clear!)
Mark,
Thanks so much for the response. Can you tell me how to execute the second sentence: " you can reduce the first percentage setting in order to include page 7 in justification". I am unclear on doing that process
Lillie,
Thanks again for another reply. What topic should I look up to see how to “lower the threshold for vertical justification”.
Thanks. Sorry I am so inept at this program even after 2 weeks.
Gary
It’s in Layout Options > Vertical Spacing > Vertical Justification:
Justify distance between staves and systems when frame is at least [n]% full
Experiment and see what happens when you lower it only 5%, etc. 100% effectively disables it, making it not operate unless the page is completely full already.
Mark,
Thanks so much for the lightning fast reply. That did the trick. All pages are vertically spaced the same now.
Thanks again for your time and expertise.
Gary
Mark,
Sorry for so many questions. Can you think to a reason why I can’t tie the Sus. Cym. note in measure 7 to the dotted half note in m. 8 using “T”. I have used that shortcut elsewhere in the piece and the notes tied fine, but there are two or three spots where the “T” command just isn’t working.
Thanks again.
Gary
Are the two notes in the same voice? Select each one individually and read the status bar at the bottom. (Or turn on voice colors and deselect all.) It looks like you forced some down-stems for the Mark Tree, so maybe the whole note is in the down-stem voice. It’s better to keep them consistent, but no big deal unless you need correct playback.
Even if they are not in the same voice, you can force a tie: Select both and press T.
It is not really necessary to tie a percussion roll to a final note, but people often do it …
Mark,
Both notes in Sus. Cymbal are in the same voice 1. I also tried selecting both notes and pressing “T”. No luck. As a percussionist, it does make a difference to me whether rolls are tied to an ending note or not. ei. in Snare Drum, if the two notes are tied I roll continuously into the note at the end of the tie ending with a single tap. If the two notes are not tied, I execute a very brief break between the rolled note and the ending note. If there is no ending note (just the roll) I do not end the roll with a tap but rather a bounced note just prior to the next beat after the roll.
Thanks.
