Logical Editor - Where does THIS Value 1 come from?

Having nothing better to do, I was browsing through the Factory Presets in the Logical Editor. Most of them were, logical, and easy to follow.
But then there is this one - Select Every Other Hi-Hat.
In the first column (Filter Target) there is a value called “Value 1”. But there is no “Value 1” on the dropdown list of available targets.
My question is: Where does it come from?

That’s so easy, I’ll let @Reco29 answer it.

Out of the blue I’d say F#1 refers to the position of the Hi-Hat in a standard Drum-Map. Haven’t checked it but it seems about right.

EDIT: Yes, it’s the closed HH in a standard GM Drum-Map :slight_smile:

LOL. you didn’t know, admit!

But I’ll let the grown-ups take over - M.C. is about to correct me I’m afraid…

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Not a Scooby. :slight_smile:

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The Logical Editor is for MIDI only.
MIDI 1.0 messages are often constructed in the same way:
Type and channel, Value 1, Value 2

E.g. for a NoteOn message value 1 would be the pitch, value 2 the velocity.
For a CC value 1 would be the actual controller number, value 2 the data value.

Steinberg has started to implement clear names for many of the items the LE can address, but still uses Value 1 (and Value 2) as the generic name for such items.
It’s a bit of a misch-masch.

Oh, and where does it come from? Leftovers from former versions of Cubase.

:laughing:

I’ve noticed that from CB12 up to CB14 there have been more fields, and some got renamed.

In CB12 I see:

In Cb14:

If we mix these, we get something like this (please notice the question marks):

I can be way off when it comes to value 1-3. Not a LE user, just my observations. Perhaps @Johnny_Moneto is spot on :slight_smile:

I hope there is not an inch of doubt in that?
Here is an excerpt from the manual of Cubase 3 for Atari, chapter “Logical Edit” (sic):

Not at all. Though I can’t be sure about how Steinberg exactly interpreted these during the years, since as mentioned I haven’t been using LE at all :slight_smile: For example I now see the “Main Value”. Is it Value 1? I just don’t know (not that I got into reading the manual for these changes anyway).

For some reason I suddenly fancy some bubble and squeak.

I suppose the LE still accepts the leftovers for backwards compatibility. I’d like to think so.

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