Lower shadow note by step -> please also octave

Hello, thank you so much for the “lower/raise shadow note by step” option !
now all we need is a “lower/raise shadow note by octave” !!
thank you,
very sincerely,
joakim

Once you’ve got the grey shadow note showing, it’s ⌘⌥↓ / ↑ (Ctrl+Alt+↓ / ↑ on Windows), just like when editing existing notes.

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Welcome to the forum, @joakimsandgren. I guess you watched John’s most recent “Dorico for Finale users” livestream last night where he demonstrated this forthcoming option (if anybody wants to watch it, it’s here).

As Mark says, you can already change the pitch of the shadow note by an octave using Ctrl+Alt+up/down arrow.

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Daniel, will there be a chapter-list-thingy added to the video’s description at some point?

Approx. 23 minutes

Hello! Yes it was thrilling ! :slight_smile:
Ah ! Of course.
The thing is, you can be extremely fast with the arrows (with steps and octaves) in the left hand, and the durations in the right hand on the numeric keypad.
But the left hand needs a key command that is easily taken to be fast.

You can have Shift or Option or Control or even Option-Control.
But the Command key is just one step too much to the left and you can’t easily just slide in a Cmd-Option-Arrow with the left hand without stretching too much the hand.

I did a lot of work with the arrow keys and Shift for the octave in the 90s but have missed it since.
It was extremely fast.
And the finale guys refused to implement it so I did a macro in keyboard maestro that kind of worked but it wasn’t instant, you needed to wait a little for the seven steps, and you always waited too little and got the wrong note.

I guess I will still dream about an “easy-left-hand” octave arrow-key command ?

You see (this was old dead mosaic in the 90s), if you have a fast octave command you can do Any interval and never do more that three strokes in a row on one same key.

Three strokes you never miss.
Four strokes and you’re already lost in counting.

For example, a fourth up or down is three strokes.
A fifth up would be four strokes but I always lost myself.

So instead, you do 1 stroke octave up, and 3 steps down.
In splitting the action in 1+3 [ 1 oct-up + 3-steps down] you don’t get lost and you don’t loose speed and like that you reach any (!) interval.

Like one 8v plus a fourth up : 1 oct up + 3 steps up.
1 octave plus a fifth up : 2 oct up + 3 steps down.
Or even 3 octaves up + a fourth up would be : 3 oct up + 3 steps up.
Or 2 octaves and a fifth up would be : 3 oct up + 3 steps down.

With this step + octave method you can literally reach any interval with no more than 3+3 key strokes.


And once I’m at it (but this should be put as a separate proposition?),
actually at the time, you did enter the note not with the pitch (because it was the arrows) and not with the duration (you already chose on the numeric) but you enter the note with the accidental !
“+” for putting a note with a sharp,
“-” to put a note with a flat,
0 or enter or * to put a note with nothing or a natural.

this was actually the fastest input method I ever had. (without midi keyboard).
sure, input chords are still faster on a midi keyboard. but I did a lot a lot of work like this directly on the computer keyboard.

thank you :slight_smile:

very sincerely,
joakim

Yes, but John hasn’t had a chance to do it yet. It should be done by the end of the week. (In the meantime John is travelling internationally to train students at the Film Scoring Academy of Europe.)

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That’s awesome!