Lower Zone Mixing Window took a step back

+1 to faders being optional, and I would like that on the full mixconsole as well.

I’ve seen other threads where people have said “but it’s not a mixer without faders”… My situation is:

  1. I don’t have unlimited screen real estate
  2. I do have physical faders on a controller
  3. Being able to deselect faders means I could have a full screen “channel strip” type view as one of my mixconsole workspaces.
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Let’s hope this feature gets reintroduced. I thought it was a stroke of genius, very useful in my way of working.

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The problem is that the inserts section has to be expanded so much that the track view is almost non-existent, especially since the fader section cannot be constricted past a certain point, and one can’t move the insert section. (mind the “faserss” typo smh).


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For Comparison, Here’s the same project in Cubase 13. Where all I had to do was press a button. (Mind the text on the program says cubase 14, but it is actually cubase 13 (hence the buttons to change the view), i just lazily pasted the picture over the other cubase 14 pictures.).


Exactly, the issues you are demonstrating are exactly why the previous Cubase 13 lower zone mixer minimalistic view with the button / tabs approach could be much more convenient and efficient for users and their workflow. Hence my suggestion located above in this thread as to why it should be re-implemented and also provided suggestions as to how to update and enhance it’s functionality.

There’s a multitude of different reasons as to why Cubase users may prefer the older Cubase 13 lower zone mixer design over the Cubase 14 lower zone mixer design and vice versa.

I don’t necessarily hate the new Cubase 14 lower zone mixer, I do think that Steinberg has done a great job on it, however I firmly believe that the previous Cubase 13 minimalistic lower zone mixer does need to be re-implemented to give users the option to choose what’s best for them and their workflow. There are many different circumstances where the Cubase 14 lower zone mixer design may not make sense for the user.

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I agree completely. Literally everything else I have noticed that has changed or been implemented I have a positive view of. This is the only thing that has been a step backward for me, or at least a confused “why would they take out the option” view. It’s just terrible that it happens to be an extremely important change for my flow. A change on something I didn’t even know was such a huge part of my flow until it was changed ha. I seriously hope they come out with some way to fix it.

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Yes it can be difficult to predict the disadvantages of changes until we see them in hindsight. Having access to the full mixer features in the lower zone sounds great on paper, and can be great for certain users. However I believe that the lower zones purpose was never intended to replace the role of the pop out / full sized windows of the editors and mixer etc. This is where we start to realize in hindsight how the sidebar button/tab design of the previous Cubase 13 minimalistic lower zone mixer served its purpose quite well for various different reasons. Hence this is why I think that it should be re-implemented alongside with the new Cubase 14 lower zone mixer design to give users the option to choose between the 2 different lower zone mixer designs. However I’m not exactly sure how difficult this kind of modular implementation approach would be in regards to programming / coding.